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<blockquote data-quote="Bugaboo" data-source="post: 649114" data-attributes="member: 7277"><p>"Power this," and "Balance that." Sheesh. You people. It's not always about <em>powergaming.</em> Of all the posts here, only Henry came closest to the real issue ... even with an inadvertant misstep. Most everyone else is tossing the red herring around, trying to figure out the munchkin benefit. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, of course roleplaying should be considered. This guy is calling himself a Diviner even though he's casting as many divinations as any other wizard would cast.</p><p></p><p>(Quick aside for those of you who can't visualize this particular aspect of spell budgeting: A spell slot is a spell slot is a spell slot. The concept of a bonus slot is somewhat misleading. Let's say you normally have access to spells A, B, C, D and E, and you normally get to cast two spells and a "bonus" spell of a D type. A and B are generally useful, so you pick A, B and D. Now let's say that D is also useful enough that anyone would pick it and cast it once a day anyway. But in this case, your specialization slot allows bonus type B instead. So your ready list is A, D and B instead. ... Whoah! Major difference! ... It's like going to dinner with a friend and paying the $10 bill: You give him a five and he pays the waiter, or he gives you a five and you pay the waiter, but the outcome is still the same as two fivers are expended.)</p><p></p><p>If he's going to be a Diviner, then he should be paying the school more homage than a token spell every so often. If we're going to play the game that way, why not pick the toad familiar and carry it around in a steel box ... never interact with it, or pretend it's a special companion at all. Great roleplaying, that.</p><p></p><p>Know anyone who graduated from college with a degree that doesn't seem to serve a purpose other than the fact that it's a degree? A store manager, for example, whose resume shows he's got a BS in Psych. He doesn't bloody well pass himself off as a therapist or counselor or psychologist, does he? The pedigree paperwork is nothing more than leverage to get a better paying job than the average grunt, and he'll never use it any other way.</p><p></p><p>Well, I'm tired of that. I've had it up to >HERE< and this so-called "Diviner" is going down. Hard. </p><p></p><p>If he wants to divine something, let's see him divine why the next red dragon he meets keeps attacking him in the party first. ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bugaboo, post: 649114, member: 7277"] "Power this," and "Balance that." Sheesh. You people. It's not always about [i]powergaming.[/i] Of all the posts here, only Henry came closest to the real issue ... even with an inadvertant misstep. Most everyone else is tossing the red herring around, trying to figure out the munchkin benefit. Yes, of course roleplaying should be considered. This guy is calling himself a Diviner even though he's casting as many divinations as any other wizard would cast. (Quick aside for those of you who can't visualize this particular aspect of spell budgeting: A spell slot is a spell slot is a spell slot. The concept of a bonus slot is somewhat misleading. Let's say you normally have access to spells A, B, C, D and E, and you normally get to cast two spells and a "bonus" spell of a D type. A and B are generally useful, so you pick A, B and D. Now let's say that D is also useful enough that anyone would pick it and cast it once a day anyway. But in this case, your specialization slot allows bonus type B instead. So your ready list is A, D and B instead. ... Whoah! Major difference! ... It's like going to dinner with a friend and paying the $10 bill: You give him a five and he pays the waiter, or he gives you a five and you pay the waiter, but the outcome is still the same as two fivers are expended.) If he's going to be a Diviner, then he should be paying the school more homage than a token spell every so often. If we're going to play the game that way, why not pick the toad familiar and carry it around in a steel box ... never interact with it, or pretend it's a special companion at all. Great roleplaying, that. Know anyone who graduated from college with a degree that doesn't seem to serve a purpose other than the fact that it's a degree? A store manager, for example, whose resume shows he's got a BS in Psych. He doesn't bloody well pass himself off as a therapist or counselor or psychologist, does he? The pedigree paperwork is nothing more than leverage to get a better paying job than the average grunt, and he'll never use it any other way. Well, I'm tired of that. I've had it up to >HERE< and this so-called "Diviner" is going down. Hard. If he wants to divine something, let's see him divine why the next red dragon he meets keeps attacking him in the party first. ... [/QUOTE]
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