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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 3738852" data-attributes="member: 40961"><p>The problem with a solution to someone wanting less than a 6, but without "giving up build points," by which I assume you mean without being compensated for the 6 with extra points to place elsewhere, is that it lets players cheese out their character with a dump stat they don't care about, in order to get high stats they do care about. The 8 point starting level that you can't go below puts a floor on that race to the bottom.</p><p></p><p>The first sequence adds up to 35, plus whatever adjustment for the 6 exists, if any. The second sequence adds up to 30. The first sequence is considered more powerful even though it adds up higher and has a higher average stat, because no character class has an equal need for every single stat. It is almost always preferable to have an 18 and a 10 then to have two 14s, so a premium is charged for the 14.</p><p></p><p>If I were trying to create your first point buy in a 32 point buy game (considered a high powered game), I'd do as follows: 16-16-14-12-10-8. Adds up to 32 points. I'm sure you would find that roleplaying an 8 wisdom versus a 6 wisdom does not dramatically change the gameplay experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 3738852, member: 40961"] The problem with a solution to someone wanting less than a 6, but without "giving up build points," by which I assume you mean without being compensated for the 6 with extra points to place elsewhere, is that it lets players cheese out their character with a dump stat they don't care about, in order to get high stats they do care about. The 8 point starting level that you can't go below puts a floor on that race to the bottom. The first sequence adds up to 35, plus whatever adjustment for the 6 exists, if any. The second sequence adds up to 30. The first sequence is considered more powerful even though it adds up higher and has a higher average stat, because no character class has an equal need for every single stat. It is almost always preferable to have an 18 and a 10 then to have two 14s, so a premium is charged for the 14. If I were trying to create your first point buy in a 32 point buy game (considered a high powered game), I'd do as follows: 16-16-14-12-10-8. Adds up to 32 points. I'm sure you would find that roleplaying an 8 wisdom versus a 6 wisdom does not dramatically change the gameplay experience. [/QUOTE]
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