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<blockquote data-quote="jayoungr" data-source="post: 8565895" data-attributes="member: 6702445"><p>All right, since the thread has been revived and this was a direct response to me...</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Secondary canon" is my own description (probably borrowed from George Lucas now that I think of it). But personally, I think that the stuff Tolkien actually committed to putting in print has greater weight than ideas he noodled around with outside of that. I see those unpublished writings as a peek into his thought process, and I don't assign more weight to any particular step of that process than to what he considered a final product ready for public consumption. So just because he <em>at one point</em> said dwarven women had beards, I don't take that as gospel and forever settled, especially since [USER=22424]@delericho[/USER] says that some of his other writings imply that they might not (I haven't checked out <em>The Nature of Middle-Earth</em> yet). If he had ever published the <em>Silmarillion</em> himself, then he would no doubt have given us a definitive answer on the appearance of female dwarves in Middle-Earth, but since he didn't, I consider the question to be still open.</p><p></p><p>However, given the uproar over the beardless female dwarf seen in publicity material for that upcoming Amazon series, my approach may be a minority one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have seen the extended editions, and I don't think they really help much. Maybe he comes across as less evil and more weak/incompetent, but I don't think that's a big improvement. And as for the Ring, when they completely eliminated the temptation of the one character whose tempting we actually see from his POV in the book--meaning Sam--they forfeited any right to make that argument.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jayoungr, post: 8565895, member: 6702445"] All right, since the thread has been revived and this was a direct response to me... "Secondary canon" is my own description (probably borrowed from George Lucas now that I think of it). But personally, I think that the stuff Tolkien actually committed to putting in print has greater weight than ideas he noodled around with outside of that. I see those unpublished writings as a peek into his thought process, and I don't assign more weight to any particular step of that process than to what he considered a final product ready for public consumption. So just because he [i]at one point[/i] said dwarven women had beards, I don't take that as gospel and forever settled, especially since [USER=22424]@delericho[/USER] says that some of his other writings imply that they might not (I haven't checked out [i]The Nature of Middle-Earth[/i] yet). If he had ever published the [i]Silmarillion[/i] himself, then he would no doubt have given us a definitive answer on the appearance of female dwarves in Middle-Earth, but since he didn't, I consider the question to be still open. However, given the uproar over the beardless female dwarf seen in publicity material for that upcoming Amazon series, my approach may be a minority one. I have seen the extended editions, and I don't think they really help much. Maybe he comes across as less evil and more weak/incompetent, but I don't think that's a big improvement. And as for the Ring, when they completely eliminated the temptation of the one character whose tempting we actually see from his POV in the book--meaning Sam--they forfeited any right to make that argument. [/QUOTE]
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