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Should Bounded Accuracy apply to skill checks? Thoughts on an old Alexandrian article
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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9512677" data-attributes="member: 7037866"><p>It is IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But this isn't want proficiecy or lack of proficiency does.</p><p></p><p>Now, of course as DM you have disgression to grant advantage if dwarf is making an Intelligence (Religion) check about a Dwarven religion and disadvantage to non-dwarves.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure you can, just not 5E's.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except there are no "skill points" in 5E's skill system. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair enough. I think you could gate checks for all Intelligence checks in particular depending on likely exposure to the knowledge in question.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Or, as you said above, impose disadvantage on the dwarf due to short legs and/or advantage to the elf for longer legs instead of adjusting the DC?</p><p></p><p>Or you don't adjust it at all... A "strong" dwarf with a better bonus making such a Strength ability check is more likely to be able to leap high enough for each step than the weak elf who can't make each leap as easily.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course. As DM you get to make the call if a check has any chance of success or not. For the elephant? No check allowed, it can't climb it. For the ape? No check required as it has a climb speed so climbs. And the human? Make the check.</p><p></p><p>But you aren't setting different DCs for each one, right???</p><p></p><p>The point is you don't adjust the DC in 5E, you decide on the things like advantage or disadvantage, or if a check is even allowed, but that's it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which guidelines are those? As far as I recall, you set a DC for a task, not for the individual attempting it. If you have an example in a WotC adventure or rulebook, etc. showing two different DCs for the <em>same</em> task attempted by different individuals, please share! I don't know of any, but I could easily have just not seen such a case. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9512677, member: 7037866"] It is IMO. But this isn't want proficiecy or lack of proficiency does. Now, of course as DM you have disgression to grant advantage if dwarf is making an Intelligence (Religion) check about a Dwarven religion and disadvantage to non-dwarves. Sure you can, just not 5E's. Except there are no "skill points" in 5E's skill system. 🤷♂️ Fair enough. I think you could gate checks for all Intelligence checks in particular depending on likely exposure to the knowledge in question. Or, as you said above, impose disadvantage on the dwarf due to short legs and/or advantage to the elf for longer legs instead of adjusting the DC? Or you don't adjust it at all... A "strong" dwarf with a better bonus making such a Strength ability check is more likely to be able to leap high enough for each step than the weak elf who can't make each leap as easily. Of course. As DM you get to make the call if a check has any chance of success or not. For the elephant? No check allowed, it can't climb it. For the ape? No check required as it has a climb speed so climbs. And the human? Make the check. But you aren't setting different DCs for each one, right??? The point is you don't adjust the DC in 5E, you decide on the things like advantage or disadvantage, or if a check is even allowed, but that's it. Which guidelines are those? As far as I recall, you set a DC for a task, not for the individual attempting it. If you have an example in a WotC adventure or rulebook, etc. showing two different DCs for the [I]same[/I] task attempted by different individuals, please share! I don't know of any, but I could easily have just not seen such a case. 🤷♂️ [/QUOTE]
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