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Should bows be Exotic Weapons?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Wilder" data-source="post: 1874850" data-attributes="member: 5122"><p>You're vastly underestimating the significance of a moving, not to mention <em>dodging</em> target. It is simply not something archers train for. I've never done any bow hunting, but I know guys who do, and they don't bother to loose at targets on the move. (My ex-girlfriend's brother tells one story of the best hunter he knows, who took a buck "on the bound" ... the kicker of the story being that it was an accident.)</p><p></p><p>Although there are archery competitions with moving targets, these are metronome or pendulum targets, with fixed and calculable rates of movement. So far as I'm aware, there are no sanctioned competitions using irregularly-moving targets. There were definitely none when I was in competition.</p><p></p><p>There's a reason for that: they'd result in a <em>lot</em> of really embarrassed otherwise superb archers.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, movement -- of both target and archer -- is the issue, which is why I bifurcated my earlier response between massed archery and skirmish archery. As I said, skirmish archery with self-bows (which is what 99% of D&D archery is, after all) could easily be classified as an exotic proficiency, realistically speaking. Crossbows differ in both areas of movement -- as flat-trajectory weapons, there's no need for constant adjustments of pull and elevation (which are made very difficult for a moving or dodging archer).</p><p></p><p>So, much as it would gratify my ego to think I'd "kick tail" on a D&D battlefield, I really do know better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Wilder, post: 1874850, member: 5122"] You're vastly underestimating the significance of a moving, not to mention [i]dodging[/i] target. It is simply not something archers train for. I've never done any bow hunting, but I know guys who do, and they don't bother to loose at targets on the move. (My ex-girlfriend's brother tells one story of the best hunter he knows, who took a buck "on the bound" ... the kicker of the story being that it was an accident.) Although there are archery competitions with moving targets, these are metronome or pendulum targets, with fixed and calculable rates of movement. So far as I'm aware, there are no sanctioned competitions using irregularly-moving targets. There were definitely none when I was in competition. There's a reason for that: they'd result in a [i]lot[/i] of really embarrassed otherwise superb archers. Anyway, movement -- of both target and archer -- is the issue, which is why I bifurcated my earlier response between massed archery and skirmish archery. As I said, skirmish archery with self-bows (which is what 99% of D&D archery is, after all) could easily be classified as an exotic proficiency, realistically speaking. Crossbows differ in both areas of movement -- as flat-trajectory weapons, there's no need for constant adjustments of pull and elevation (which are made very difficult for a moving or dodging archer). So, much as it would gratify my ego to think I'd "kick tail" on a D&D battlefield, I really do know better. [/QUOTE]
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