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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5734682" data-attributes="member: 463">It's definitely much less of an issue if stats are rolled in order, in that case having high CHA has no relation to whether or not I have high STR.&nbsp; It's still an issue if stats are rolled then assigned, so that putting a 16 into CHA negatively affects my chances to hit enemies with my sword.I suspect Elf Witch's 3e game might resemble many non-D&amp;D RPGs where interpersonal skills are valued equally to combat skills.&nbsp; And in 3e the higher-CHA classes are mostly weaker combatants.&nbsp; But in 4e D&amp;D every PC gets equivalent combat skills.&nbsp; Then certain classes get high CHA &amp; good interpersonal skills on top.&nbsp; Preventing the Fighter player from talking, while letting the Bard contribute equally in combat, seems unfair to me.&nbsp; It also prevents the 'charismatic warrior' concept from being an effective PC, despite this being a common fictional archetype.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 5734682, member: 463"] It's definitely much less of an issue if stats are rolled in order, in that case having high CHA has no relation to whether or not I have high STR. It's still an issue if stats are rolled then assigned, so that putting a 16 into CHA negatively affects my chances to hit enemies with my sword. I suspect Elf Witch's 3e game might resemble many non-D&D RPGs where interpersonal skills are valued equally to combat skills. And in 3e the higher-CHA classes are mostly weaker combatants. But in 4e D&D every PC gets equivalent combat skills. Then certain classes get high CHA & good interpersonal skills on top. Preventing the Fighter player from talking, while letting the Bard contribute equally in combat, seems unfair to me. It also prevents the 'charismatic warrior' concept from being an effective PC, despite this being a common fictional archetype. [/QUOTE]

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