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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jeffh" data-source="post: 5736540" data-attributes="member: 2642">They are never the same thing. I'm not saying they need conflict, but acting out dialogue and such is neither necessary nor sufficient for playing in a way that's true to your character.That's true, but has nothing to do with anything I said. Surely your character shouldn't deviate wildly from what's written there. Yes, the character is more than what's written on the sheet, but surely it has something to do with what's written on the sheet.Let me put it another way. Would you (in a pre-4E context) allow a character with a 9 strength to (in the normal course of events, not as part of some unusual maneuver) claim a +3 strength bonus to his melee attacks and damage? If the answer is "no", which surely it is, why should the player with the 9 charisma character get to be as, if not more, charming and persuasive as one with a 16? If that's the kind of character he wants to play, that's the kind that should be written down in front of him, not some other.I define it as making decisions chiefly because they're the ones your character would make in that situation, as opposed to the many other reasons you might base them on. My question to you is, can someone not be doing that and still be role-playing, by any reasonable definition?</blockquote>