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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5746656" data-attributes="member: 22779">Why are the NPC's overreacting to him?  He's playing the stats that are on his sheet.  The reactions he gets should be in keeping with what he's playing.  There's no double jeopardy here.  The low Cha character makes some social gaffe and the NPC's react appropriately.You don't then whack an extra penalty onto the rolls because of what he's doing.  If the character is being properly characterized, then that's already taken care of.If you want to play a "face" character, then have the stats to back that up.  Don't be B A Barracus and then act like Face and then get pissed off when the DM tells you you're not playing the character in front of you.And, yup, that means if you want your fighter to be the "face" he's not going to deal as much damage as the fighter player who dumpstats his Cha.  That's the price you pay.  You want this advantage, you PAY for that advantage.  There should never be any free lunches.  Sorry, no, you don't get to be the unstoppable juggernaut AND the face guy in the point buy game.  Pick one and play it.You want to be the real tactical fighter guy, put that 13 or 14 in Int and away you go.  You want to be really suave, start training in Diplomacy and possibly toss a feat or two in their to bring up your score, thus overcoming your flat Cha score.There's a million ways to do it.  The way not to do it is to dump stat Cha, never spend any character resources on diplomacy or any other social skill and then expect the DM to give you a free pass just because you talk pretty.</blockquote>

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