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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 5747978" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>Nonsense.</p><p></p><p>You want to play a 3e point buy decent tank who interacts suavely by the mechanics?</p><p></p><p>Play a fighter and you are hard pressed to do it. Charisma is not useful to your class abilities and diplomacy is cross class. Even with short changing your useful abilities you will still have a fairly poor diplomacy. Spending more combat resources to gain skill focus will help at low levels but you will still fall behind classes with it as a class skill as you level. Sacrificed combat stuff to get subpar face stuff.</p><p></p><p>So the tank with decent diplomacy does not work? You have to sacrifice to get slightly subpar tanking with mediocre diplomacy?</p><p></p><p>Not so if you play a paladin. Tank combat class. Points dumped/pooured into charisma powers class combat abilities of both offense and defense. Diplomacy is a class skill. High charisma, max diplomacy with a normal combat build. If you want to spend your feats on skill focus you can do so as well and trounce the fighter concept diplomat's diplomacy at every level.</p><p></p><p>So you want to be suave mechanically? Intelligent? Look at the classes and how much they mechanically support that roleplay archetype style. Some will, some won't. Want to go against the grain and be competent at it while playing classes that don't support it mechanically? You can, but it will cost you and you will still be poorer at it than others can easily in your party while they do so without cost.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 5747978, member: 2209"] Nonsense. You want to play a 3e point buy decent tank who interacts suavely by the mechanics? Play a fighter and you are hard pressed to do it. Charisma is not useful to your class abilities and diplomacy is cross class. Even with short changing your useful abilities you will still have a fairly poor diplomacy. Spending more combat resources to gain skill focus will help at low levels but you will still fall behind classes with it as a class skill as you level. Sacrificed combat stuff to get subpar face stuff. So the tank with decent diplomacy does not work? You have to sacrifice to get slightly subpar tanking with mediocre diplomacy? Not so if you play a paladin. Tank combat class. Points dumped/pooured into charisma powers class combat abilities of both offense and defense. Diplomacy is a class skill. High charisma, max diplomacy with a normal combat build. If you want to spend your feats on skill focus you can do so as well and trounce the fighter concept diplomat's diplomacy at every level. So you want to be suave mechanically? Intelligent? Look at the classes and how much they mechanically support that roleplay archetype style. Some will, some won't. Want to go against the grain and be competent at it while playing classes that don't support it mechanically? You can, but it will cost you and you will still be poorer at it than others can easily in your party while they do so without cost. [/QUOTE]
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