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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 5749873" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>Yes if you like to roleplay these concepts with the classes that don't support them in 3e without investing heavily one alternative is to not play 3e D&D.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In 4e you get two feats at first level if you are human, one if you are non human. You don't get 15 feats total until level 24. 22 if you are human. So not exactly a huge resource expenditure for an epic 20+ level character.</p><p></p><p>If you use the PHII you can do it easily at first level with a background (A mechanical option not in the PHI or the essentials books). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What feat is that? Its not in any WotC 3e book I'm aware of. I'm sure there is a netbook of feats with it though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>10 int Einstein in 3e D&D? Well lets look at it. How many different 3e skills did Einstein have? How high a level wizard spell did he ever cast? Why is the stat on the sheet important again?</p><p></p><p>Can a low skill character in 3e with an average int be roleplayed like Einstein? Would a cleric who is an Einstein style genius about divine magic work as an 18 wisdom and a 10 int mechanically? Give him some crazy hair and I'm fine with it.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>If James Bond is an NPC the PCs never know his charisma score, they only know how the DM portrays him. The only 3e mechanical effect I can think of that a PC would interact with would be if Bond tried a feint on them and made a charisma modified bluff check. What comes across is whether the DM does a decent Sean Connery accent with quips and innuendo.</p><p></p><p>Roleplaying as a James Bond PC with 10 charisma. Perhaps he wants a ton of skills and plays a high int, high dex, high con rogue. Maybe he even chooses to be dwarvish for the accent and hirsute manliness. "Bond. Durin Bond. On Her Royal Majesty the Queen Under the Mountain's Service." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I can see it working.</p><p></p><p>I can see enjoying these character concepts in a game I run as either PCs or NPCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 5749873, member: 2209"] Yes if you like to roleplay these concepts with the classes that don't support them in 3e without investing heavily one alternative is to not play 3e D&D. In 4e you get two feats at first level if you are human, one if you are non human. You don't get 15 feats total until level 24. 22 if you are human. So not exactly a huge resource expenditure for an epic 20+ level character. If you use the PHII you can do it easily at first level with a background (A mechanical option not in the PHI or the essentials books). What feat is that? Its not in any WotC 3e book I'm aware of. I'm sure there is a netbook of feats with it though. 10 int Einstein in 3e D&D? Well lets look at it. How many different 3e skills did Einstein have? How high a level wizard spell did he ever cast? Why is the stat on the sheet important again? Can a low skill character in 3e with an average int be roleplayed like Einstein? Would a cleric who is an Einstein style genius about divine magic work as an 18 wisdom and a 10 int mechanically? Give him some crazy hair and I'm fine with it.:) If James Bond is an NPC the PCs never know his charisma score, they only know how the DM portrays him. The only 3e mechanical effect I can think of that a PC would interact with would be if Bond tried a feint on them and made a charisma modified bluff check. What comes across is whether the DM does a decent Sean Connery accent with quips and innuendo. Roleplaying as a James Bond PC with 10 charisma. Perhaps he wants a ton of skills and plays a high int, high dex, high con rogue. Maybe he even chooses to be dwarvish for the accent and hirsute manliness. "Bond. Durin Bond. On Her Royal Majesty the Queen Under the Mountain's Service." :) I can see it working. I can see enjoying these character concepts in a game I run as either PCs or NPCs. [/QUOTE]
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