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<blockquote data-quote="Rampant" data-source="post: 5799265" data-attributes="member: 52859">What alignment would a Cleric who slaughtered his own lawful good deity in the middle of the great temple for the entire city to see because said deity told the paladin to execute his half-fiend niece for scratching the King's son be?What if You created a class, lets call it the champion for now, and the champion's big schtick is that he has a cause: purge corruption, protect the helpless, spread the light of reason, destroy {insert big scary institution or organization}, something like that. This class gains all sorts of abilities like limited healing, broad weapon and armor selection, the option to call/train a special companion, all that good stuff.Then at level x, whether by PrC, PP, Theme, or what have you, he can become one of several different things.A virtuous paladin, a vengeance driven punisher, a mysterious grey cloak, or even a terrifying black knight.Put simply Paladin is a title to be earned, not something a base class should represent. Furthermore in my own little world a Paladin is someone who is willing to tell the rules to go take a hike when the time comes to do the right thing. The way I figure it, if alignment is a part of the game Paladins should be good, everything else is secondary.To put it more generally, a base class should represent a sufficient range of archetypes that any alignment would be acceptable. Alignment, if it is included, should only restrict things that should be restricted.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rampant, post: 5799265, member: 52859"] What alignment would a Cleric who slaughtered his own lawful good deity in the middle of the great temple for the entire city to see because said deity told the paladin to execute his half-fiend niece for scratching the King's son be? What if You created a class, lets call it the champion for now, and the champion's big schtick is that he has a cause: purge corruption, protect the helpless, spread the light of reason, destroy {insert big scary institution or organization}, something like that. This class gains all sorts of abilities like limited healing, broad weapon and armor selection, the option to call/train a special companion, all that good stuff. Then at level x, whether by PrC, PP, Theme, or what have you, he can become one of several different things. A virtuous paladin, a vengeance driven punisher, a mysterious grey cloak, or even a terrifying black knight. Put simply Paladin is a title to be earned, not something a base class should represent. Furthermore in my own little world a Paladin is someone who is willing to tell the rules to go take a hike when the time comes to do the right thing. The way I figure it, if alignment is a part of the game Paladins should be good, everything else is secondary. To put it more generally, a base class should represent a sufficient range of archetypes that any alignment would be acceptable. Alignment, if it is included, should only restrict things that should be restricted. [/QUOTE]

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