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<blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 4913513" data-attributes="member: 21169">Not if there's a paladin.The cleric has always been weird, much less of an archetype than the fighter or wizard. The funny thing is, the 'party healer' is a stronger archetype now than it was in 1974, due to D&amp;D's influence. With 4e D&amp;D has now moved away from this terrain, ceding it, probably correctly, to videogames. It was a crap idea anyway, WoW notably suffers from 'Looking for healer'. D&amp;D was right, in this instance, to become less videogame-y.The other problem with the cleric is it was OK in 1974 but once the paladin showed up the two classes were too similar so something has to give.So, party healer mostly doesn't work. Religious dude in plate is too close to the paladin. The obvious solution is to scrap the cleric altogether. The idea was never very good. The only reason to bring it back is if Lord Fang is dominating your game and needs a Peter Cushing style smackdown.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Doug McCrae, post: 4913513, member: 21169"] Not if there's a paladin. The cleric has always been weird, much less of an archetype than the fighter or wizard. The funny thing is, the 'party healer' is a stronger archetype now than it was in 1974, due to D&D's influence. With 4e D&D has now moved away from this terrain, ceding it, probably correctly, to videogames. It was a crap idea anyway, WoW notably suffers from 'Looking for healer'. D&D was right, in this instance, to become less videogame-y. The other problem with the cleric is it was OK in 1974 but once the paladin showed up the two classes were too similar so something has to give. So, party healer mostly doesn't work. Religious dude in plate is too close to the paladin. The obvious solution is to scrap the cleric altogether. The idea was never very good. The only reason to bring it back is if Lord Fang is dominating your game and needs a Peter Cushing style smackdown. [/QUOTE]

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