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Should D&D 5e have Epic Levels?
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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8023666" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>I think this is a really good point. Back in AD&D I had one player who wanted to do this and we did it twice, once in a forgotten realms campaign I had on the moonsea. He started running this estate on the side 1-on-1 in addition to rare epic dungeon crawls with the party. Even used some hooks to get into those dungeon crawls. This was probably my most successful endeavor but eventually in ended in a TPK while trying to assasinate the leader of Zhentil Keep, inside Zhentil Keep. I think other than the one player, most in the campaign were relieved to have it end. The same player and I also did an epic spinoff after we finished dragonlance. Finally the same player wanted to do it at level 12 in 5e after we tired of the group campaign we were playing. We haven't really went anywhere with that though.</p><p></p><p>I ran into two problems with this, and maybe it is specific to me and my players. First only one guy wanted to do this, meaning we break up the campaign and continue one-on-one (or try to recruit someone). </p><p></p><p>Second is I was not good at it as DM, I had trouble creating the epic story and challenging the player. Sure I could have a dragon attack his keep and slaughter his citizens (and I did), but that only works once and really can't be the focus of such a campaign. You need political intrigue, enemy armies, taxes etc and when I put that together it all felt rather thin to me. We did it a little bit and I had fun, and he probably liked it more than "standard" D&D even as bad as I was at it, but I ran out of ideas pretty quickly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8023666, member: 6855259"] I think this is a really good point. Back in AD&D I had one player who wanted to do this and we did it twice, once in a forgotten realms campaign I had on the moonsea. He started running this estate on the side 1-on-1 in addition to rare epic dungeon crawls with the party. Even used some hooks to get into those dungeon crawls. This was probably my most successful endeavor but eventually in ended in a TPK while trying to assasinate the leader of Zhentil Keep, inside Zhentil Keep. I think other than the one player, most in the campaign were relieved to have it end. The same player and I also did an epic spinoff after we finished dragonlance. Finally the same player wanted to do it at level 12 in 5e after we tired of the group campaign we were playing. We haven't really went anywhere with that though. I ran into two problems with this, and maybe it is specific to me and my players. First only one guy wanted to do this, meaning we break up the campaign and continue one-on-one (or try to recruit someone). Second is I was not good at it as DM, I had trouble creating the epic story and challenging the player. Sure I could have a dragon attack his keep and slaughter his citizens (and I did), but that only works once and really can't be the focus of such a campaign. You need political intrigue, enemy armies, taxes etc and when I put that together it all felt rather thin to me. We did it a little bit and I had fun, and he probably liked it more than "standard" D&D even as bad as I was at it, but I ran out of ideas pretty quickly. [/QUOTE]
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