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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6281261" data-attributes="member: 2525">I hear the sarcasm, but it's not a good answer in my opinion because you've made literally dozens of comments about this, and a lot of them had none of that "it probably will only be in a close out sell for the brand" but were simply "It's vaporware and will never be released".  Morrus even challenged you on the comment once, and you held your ground saying it will never be released.  So yeah, looks to me like your position is shifting, you're trying to cover your bases and be evasive.  I'd be OK with that if you were saying "Looks like I was wrong, my new view is..." But that's not what you're saying.  You're trying to pretend you never claimed it was total vaporware, and are now shifting to a claim that you always thought it was going to be released.  I don't think it is unfair of me to raise the topic with you.  If you want to be snarky and sarcastic back, well fair enough. Yeah, "Want to succeed" isn't really relevant to "Predict it will never be released".  I am asking if it does OK on release, will you simply shift to "It will fail, next year"? What's your threshold for success.  I think it's fair to get some specifics from you, given a year of hearing how it's vaporware.I am not suggesting any such thing.  You can exaggerate and be sarcastic for effect, but it's not much of an answer to genuine questions.  At what point to you consider that your assumptions were faulty? When it comes out? If it does OK for the first year? Is it really such an unfair thing for me to want to hold you to a position you've been repeating in threads for a year? I made a prediction about 4e once, and was held to it (for a long time).  I'm comfortable with that.  You didn't see me being sarcastic and snarky and exaggerating for effect and evasive when faced with it.  I'm just trying to hold you to a standard I was willing to accept, and I thought you'd be willing to accept.  And if not, I am asking what standard you are willing to be held to, if any.  Not really the sinister or mean type of thing you're painting it as.  I think you have some level of responsibility for the things you say and do, much like I am sure you think I do, and also like you appear to think WOTC has for the things they have said and done.</blockquote>

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