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<blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 2735823" data-attributes="member: 13892"><p>No, it really isn't. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's <em>exactly</em> what it's a question of. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Obviously, this isn't true. If this <em>were</em> true, numerous people on this thread wouldn't be pointing out things that the current Basic Set lacks and saying that they'd like to see these things in the proposed 'New Red Box' (e.g., character generation rules, etc). Fact is, the mechanical stuff that most people are looking for is <em>not</em> in the current Basic Set. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, that's the only thing left to focus on - but <em>only</em> if you ignore all of the requests that people have been making to see the current Basic Set rules expanded and its price point lowered. If you ignore all of these requests and simply focus on repackaging the current Basic Set, you aren't actually addressing any of the common complaints about said item that crop up timne and time again.</p><p></p><p>People don't pop into these threads and say 'Gee! The current Basic Set is sheer genius, but I didn't buy it because of the cover art!' - they critique its lack of character generation rules, its high price point, and its other limitations that make a less than ideal introductory game. Failing to address those concerns and, instead, merely budgeting for some new cover art will not magically fix all of the problems that people have with the current Basic Set. </p><p></p><p>In fact, it won't fix <em>any</em> of them. Perhaps you've heard the expression "When you polish a turd, you get a polished turd"? Well, that applies here - if all you're doing is cosmetically altering a product that many people consider to be poorly designed, without doing anything to fix the flaws in that design, you're still going to have a product that many people consider to be poorly designed, even if it the cover art is a bit sexier.</p><p></p><p>I suggest flushing this particular tu... err... product and re-building it from the ground up in accordance with the largely reasonable suggestions of its many detractors.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdrakeh, post: 2735823, member: 13892"] No, it really isn't. That's [i]exactly[/i] what it's a question of. Obviously, this isn't true. If this [i]were[/i] true, numerous people on this thread wouldn't be pointing out things that the current Basic Set lacks and saying that they'd like to see these things in the proposed 'New Red Box' (e.g., character generation rules, etc). Fact is, the mechanical stuff that most people are looking for is [i]not[/i] in the current Basic Set. Sure, that's the only thing left to focus on - but [i]only[/i] if you ignore all of the requests that people have been making to see the current Basic Set rules expanded and its price point lowered. If you ignore all of these requests and simply focus on repackaging the current Basic Set, you aren't actually addressing any of the common complaints about said item that crop up timne and time again. People don't pop into these threads and say 'Gee! The current Basic Set is sheer genius, but I didn't buy it because of the cover art!' - they critique its lack of character generation rules, its high price point, and its other limitations that make a less than ideal introductory game. Failing to address those concerns and, instead, merely budgeting for some new cover art will not magically fix all of the problems that people have with the current Basic Set. In fact, it won't fix [i]any[/i] of them. Perhaps you've heard the expression "When you polish a turd, you get a polished turd"? Well, that applies here - if all you're doing is cosmetically altering a product that many people consider to be poorly designed, without doing anything to fix the flaws in that design, you're still going to have a product that many people consider to be poorly designed, even if it the cover art is a bit sexier. I suggest flushing this particular tu... err... product and re-building it from the ground up in accordance with the largely reasonable suggestions of its many detractors. [/QUOTE]
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