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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 2736997" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>Heh. Let's look what the current Basic Game does. (And there's a new one coming in June)</p><p></p><p><strong>Battle mat</strong> - uses tiles, not mat.</p><p><strong>Board game similarities/less board game similarities (a la Talisman, Hero Quest)</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Character generation</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Chits and cards</strong> - no</p><p><strong>Collectable elements</strong> - yes (minis)</p><p><strong>Compatible with 3.5</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Cool dice</strong> - it has dice. polyhedral is cool, yes?</p><p><strong>Dungeon creation</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>campaign creation</strong> - no</p><p><strong>Family game experience focus</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Followed by an Expert Set</strong> - no</p><p><strong>Maps for minis</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Marketed to families and children</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Miniatures</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>One player plays BBEG (a la Siege of the Citadel and Space Hulk)</strong> - that's the DM</p><p><strong>PDF and online support for the product, including how to transition into D&D 3.5</strong> - not so much</p><p><strong>Pregenerated characters</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Price point 20/30/40/50/60 dollars</strong> - $25</p><p><strong>Replace Dungeon Master with quest booklets and randomly drawn map tiles</strong> - no</p><p><strong>Series of thematically linked games</strong> - no</p><p><strong>Should give opportunity for roleplaying</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Simplified rules and combat</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Sold in toy stores</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Support for levels 1-3/1-5/a few levels</strong> - levels 1-2</p><p><strong>Target group age 9-12</strong> - broader than that, I think</p><p></p><p>I'll add my wishes:</p><p></p><p><strong>The same cover art and design as Red Box Basic Set</strong> - sorry</p><p><strong>Slimmed down rules allowing for play up to 5th level</strong> - no</p><p><strong>Pregenerated characters</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Chargen rules</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>XP tables up to 5th</strong> - no (only 1st & 2nd)</p><p><strong>Treasure tables</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>Four basic classes (fighter, cleric, rogue, sorcerer)</strong> - yes</p><p><strong>A very slimmed down world description ("this is the inn, this is the chapel, this is the smithys, this is the dungeon, and that over there are the Dragon Peaks!"). And a map!</strong> - no</p><p><strong>Fliers for Eberron and Forgotten Realms</strong> - err. I forget</p><p><strong>Five simple adventures with minis maps</strong> - one bigger adventure played over 8 tiles (I think they're 8"x8" or bigger)</p><p><strong>Online support with additional adventures</strong> - alas, no.</p><p><strong>Interior art by WAR</strong> - hmm. The box art is by WAR. I forget who does the interior art</p><p><strong>Dice from Crystal Caste</strong> - not likely - the price goes up too much.</p><p><strong>24 minis (a beholder and a mind flayer among them)</strong> - 16 minis, including a medium black dragon</p><p><strong>Cards as player aids (actions and spells and stuff)</strong> - no</p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 2736997, member: 3586"] Heh. Let's look what the current Basic Game does. (And there's a new one coming in June) [b]Battle mat[/b] - uses tiles, not mat. [b]Board game similarities/less board game similarities (a la Talisman, Hero Quest)[/b] - yes [b]Character generation[/b] - yes [b]Chits and cards[/b] - no [b]Collectable elements[/b] - yes (minis) [b]Compatible with 3.5[/b] - yes [b]Cool dice[/b] - it has dice. polyhedral is cool, yes? [b]Dungeon creation[/b] - yes [b]campaign creation[/b] - no [b]Family game experience focus[/b] - yes [b]Followed by an Expert Set[/b] - no [b]Maps for minis[/b] - yes [b]Marketed to families and children[/b] - yes [b]Miniatures[/b] - yes [b]One player plays BBEG (a la Siege of the Citadel and Space Hulk)[/b] - that's the DM [b]PDF and online support for the product, including how to transition into D&D 3.5[/b] - not so much [b]Pregenerated characters[/b] - yes [b]Price point 20/30/40/50/60 dollars[/b] - $25 [b]Replace Dungeon Master with quest booklets and randomly drawn map tiles[/b] - no [b]Series of thematically linked games[/b] - no [b]Should give opportunity for roleplaying[/b] - yes [b]Simplified rules and combat[/b] - yes [b]Sold in toy stores[/b] - yes [b]Support for levels 1-3/1-5/a few levels[/b] - levels 1-2 [b]Target group age 9-12[/b] - broader than that, I think I'll add my wishes: [b]The same cover art and design as Red Box Basic Set[/b] - sorry [b]Slimmed down rules allowing for play up to 5th level[/b] - no [b]Pregenerated characters[/b] - yes [b]Chargen rules[/b] - yes [b]XP tables up to 5th[/b] - no (only 1st & 2nd) [b]Treasure tables[/b] - yes [b]Four basic classes (fighter, cleric, rogue, sorcerer)[/b] - yes [b]A very slimmed down world description ("this is the inn, this is the chapel, this is the smithys, this is the dungeon, and that over there are the Dragon Peaks!"). And a map![/b] - no [b]Fliers for Eberron and Forgotten Realms[/b] - err. I forget [b]Five simple adventures with minis maps[/b] - one bigger adventure played over 8 tiles (I think they're 8"x8" or bigger) [b]Online support with additional adventures[/b] - alas, no. [b]Interior art by WAR[/b] - hmm. The box art is by WAR. I forget who does the interior art [b]Dice from Crystal Caste[/b] - not likely - the price goes up too much. [b]24 minis (a beholder and a mind flayer among them)[/b] - 16 minis, including a medium black dragon [b]Cards as player aids (actions and spells and stuff)[/b] - no Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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