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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yora" data-source="post: 5937077" data-attributes="member: 6670763">I once tried to streamline 2nd Edition and it really turned out that all the differences in the tables are really mostly "fake differences". They were just written down in really weird ways, but put all the bonuses in one place, and all the penalties in another place, and you end up with the basic tables that are really very straightforward.Yes, it does look more interesting when you get a +2 to damage and +1 to attack instead of having +1/+1 or +2/+2. But when you go through the tables, you find that the next lines says +3/+2, +4/+3, +5/+4, and so on. It just looks different for the sake of appearing to be different and complex. Either they didn't know any better, or they did it on purpose. Either way, it's bad game design.And when you roll 3d6 for the stats, there's actually only a very small chance that you will have anything but +0 to anything. So in the few cases you actually did get something, there was even less chance that you would feel "it's always the same".One table for all abilities is the way to go. That way, you can remember the numbers and don't have to look them up all the time.</blockquote>