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Should Epic Be In PH1?
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<blockquote data-quote="KidSnide" data-source="post: 5773985" data-attributes="member: 54710"><p>I'm guessing that I'm in the minority, but I think WotC made a mistake by including epic in the PH1. It required a bunch of pages when you add up the powers of the various classes and -- even with that -- there has never been especially good support. </p><p></p><p>Moreover, having epic as a core part of the game suggests to DMs that a "typical" campaign should run through all three tiers. There are lots of good stories that finish with epic play, but many (if not most) good campaign stories finish with a lower level nemesis. In much the same way that I think 4e had too much rules weight on combat (even though it works fine for a low-combat game), I also think that 4e put too much emphasis on campaigns that start with 1st level characters and end with fighting a god or demon lord. That's fun and it should be supported, but it shouldn't be the prototype.</p><p></p><p>I'd rather see epic support placed in its own supplement(s). I want to see solid epic support, but it needs its own page count and it shouldn't be crammed into the PH. It would also be nice if enough powers scaled up on their own that epic powers could focus on abilities unique to epic level characters and not just more bad-ass versions of abilities the characters had been using the whole time.</p><p></p><p>-KS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KidSnide, post: 5773985, member: 54710"] I'm guessing that I'm in the minority, but I think WotC made a mistake by including epic in the PH1. It required a bunch of pages when you add up the powers of the various classes and -- even with that -- there has never been especially good support. Moreover, having epic as a core part of the game suggests to DMs that a "typical" campaign should run through all three tiers. There are lots of good stories that finish with epic play, but many (if not most) good campaign stories finish with a lower level nemesis. In much the same way that I think 4e had too much rules weight on combat (even though it works fine for a low-combat game), I also think that 4e put too much emphasis on campaigns that start with 1st level characters and end with fighting a god or demon lord. That's fun and it should be supported, but it shouldn't be the prototype. I'd rather see epic support placed in its own supplement(s). I want to see solid epic support, but it needs its own page count and it shouldn't be crammed into the PH. It would also be nice if enough powers scaled up on their own that epic powers could focus on abilities unique to epic level characters and not just more bad-ass versions of abilities the characters had been using the whole time. -KS [/QUOTE]
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