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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9511237" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Ok please tell me how my single class Sorcerer can take a feat and use Cleave.There is no feat or combation of feats that will allow this for a Wizard, Sorcerer, Warlock or Druid to use Cleave. On the other hand any martial could use take an Origin feat and use both Green Flame Blade and Cleave and Eldritch&nbsp; Knights can do it without any feat.Someone else brought up Green Flame Blade and Cleave, claiming that casters could already do this just by getting the Green Flame Blade Cantrip.&nbsp; That is how this got started and I pointed out at the time they need a feat too, now I realize they can't even do it with the feat.Mastery should not be uniquely a martial toy.&nbsp; They should be available to everyone I think.&nbsp; Less of them for casters than non-casters.I am not comparing EKs to full casters, you or other people are.&nbsp; All I am saying is they are the only character that can use Green Flame Blade and Cleave (and they are).I don't see why we need to compare classes and why we need to say this class should not have this cool thing?There is only one question that matters - would the game be more fun and more cool if full casters and Monks had one weapon mastery.&nbsp; I think the answer is yes and that is why I think they should have it.&nbsp; The fact that other classes have it too is kind of irrelevant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9511237, member: 7030563"] Ok please tell me how my single class Sorcerer can take a feat and use Cleave. There is no feat or combation of feats that will allow this for a Wizard, Sorcerer, Warlock or Druid to use Cleave. On the other hand any martial could use take an Origin feat and use both Green Flame Blade and Cleave and Eldritch Knights can do it without any feat. Someone else brought up Green Flame Blade and Cleave, claiming that casters could already do this just by getting the Green Flame Blade Cantrip. That is how this got started and I pointed out at the time they need a feat too, now I realize they can't even do it with the feat. Mastery should not be uniquely a martial toy. They should be available to everyone I think. Less of them for casters than non-casters. I am not comparing EKs to full casters, you or other people are. All I am saying is they are the only character that can use Green Flame Blade and Cleave (and they are). I don't see why we need to compare classes and why we need to say this class should not have this cool thing? There is only one question that matters - would the game be more fun and more cool if full casters and Monks had one weapon mastery. I think the answer is yes and that is why I think they should have it. The fact that other classes have it too is kind of irrelevant. [/QUOTE]

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