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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mr Fixit" data-source="post: 6390839" data-attributes="member: 6779654">Fair enough. But those things cut both ways. Maybe the fighter doesn't expend all his SD nor uses his AS, but then neither does the ranger use his best limited-use features. We're again down to fighter dishing out over 200 damage with his attacks only (it's only going up, he'll probably use at least an SD or two), while the ranger is stuck at 150. And this of course supposes rare short rests with a bunch of encounters per day. Some campaigns/groups use the short rest more liberally and are not so fighting-heavy, so it's more likely for PCs to nova on a more regular basis. Sure, but 5E does tend to have somewhat shorter battles. As for the longer ones, what do you think will be the Champion's contribution there? I feel it would be even worse for our poor ranger.This I would be OK with if other ranger features were all that great. Sadly they aren't. Favoured enemy is woefully inadequate and other features are just as situational/on the weak side. Just look at his 20th level "ultimate" ability!</blockquote>