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Should Hunter's mark (Ranger spell) drop Concentration requirement?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mr Fixit" data-source="post: 6391870" data-attributes="member: 6779654"><p>Let's get this out of the way. I've been nothing but respectful in each and every post in this thread and on the boards at large. So why this veiled aggression? </p><p></p><p>Okay, let's continue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's see... Ranger. Two attacks per round. </p><p>Attack 1: d8(4.5) (weapon) + d8(4.5) (colossus slayer) + d6(3.5) (hunter's mark) + 5 (Dex mod.) = <strong>17.5</strong></p><p><strong></strong>Attack 2: d8(4.5) (weapon) + d6(3.5) (hunter's mark) + 5 (Dex mod.) = <strong>13</strong></p><p>Damage per round: <strong>30.5</strong>. Damage over 5 rounds: <strong>152.5</strong></p><p><strong></strong>Where did you get the other 50? It's possible I missed something.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay. Fighter. Four attacks per round.</p><p>Each attack: d8(4.5) (weapon) + 5 (Dex mod.) = <strong>9.5</strong></p><p><strong></strong>Damage per round: <strong>38</strong>. Damage over 5 rounds: <strong>190</strong></p><p></p><p>Both of these calculations don't include magic weapon bonuses (by level 20, +3 probably) which brings ranger up to <strong>182.5</strong> (10 attacks with +3) and fighter to <strong>250 </strong>(20 attacks with +3). All of this without a single Superiority Die nor Action Surge spent. If the fighter were to spend his top potential in those (sure, not in every battle, but in important, big battles, if the party is likely to take a short rest afterward to collect themselves, why not? Will he hold back while party members die around him?), he could dish out <strong>320 </strong>(using 1 Action Surge (50dmg) and half his SD (20dmg)) to the maximum of <strong>390 </strong>damage for both AS and all SD.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Huh? Why would the ranger be doing max damage?</p><p></p><p>Ah... this has gone completely off-topic. I didn't intend to bore everyone to their deaths with all this. My point wasn't to pedantically debate every pro and con of these classes, but simply to ask you guys if it would be better for hunter's mark not to be tied to concentration (and ideally to take it out of the spells completely and transfer it to core martial features). For reasons of flavour, overall damage, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mr Fixit, post: 6391870, member: 6779654"] Let's get this out of the way. I've been nothing but respectful in each and every post in this thread and on the boards at large. So why this veiled aggression? Okay, let's continue. Let's see... Ranger. Two attacks per round. Attack 1: d8(4.5) (weapon) + d8(4.5) (colossus slayer) + d6(3.5) (hunter's mark) + 5 (Dex mod.) = [B]17.5 [/B]Attack 2: d8(4.5) (weapon) + d6(3.5) (hunter's mark) + 5 (Dex mod.) = [B]13[/B] Damage per round: [B]30.5[/B]. Damage over 5 rounds: [B]152.5 [/B]Where did you get the other 50? It's possible I missed something. Okay. Fighter. Four attacks per round. Each attack: d8(4.5) (weapon) + 5 (Dex mod.) = [B]9.5 [/B]Damage per round: [B]38[/B]. Damage over 5 rounds: [B]190[/B] Both of these calculations don't include magic weapon bonuses (by level 20, +3 probably) which brings ranger up to [B]182.5[/B] (10 attacks with +3) and fighter to [B]250 [/B](20 attacks with +3). All of this without a single Superiority Die nor Action Surge spent. If the fighter were to spend his top potential in those (sure, not in every battle, but in important, big battles, if the party is likely to take a short rest afterward to collect themselves, why not? Will he hold back while party members die around him?), he could dish out [B]320 [/B](using 1 Action Surge (50dmg) and half his SD (20dmg)) to the maximum of [B]390 [/B]damage for both AS and all SD. Huh? Why would the ranger be doing max damage? Ah... this has gone completely off-topic. I didn't intend to bore everyone to their deaths with all this. My point wasn't to pedantically debate every pro and con of these classes, but simply to ask you guys if it would be better for hunter's mark not to be tied to concentration (and ideally to take it out of the spells completely and transfer it to core martial features). For reasons of flavour, overall damage, etc. [/QUOTE]
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