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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lela" data-source="post: 571969" data-attributes="member: 1216">Okay, in my current game I put a lot of pressure on Paladins.  I've made them into a PrC that is very powerful (See Invisibility always active at first level, as an example).  It's an exclusive club that takes a lot of RPing to enter into.So, I've got a player who's taken the class.  He's done well so far and has recently reached 5th level (in the PrC).Well, to the point, one of the other player's wife was lost on Nishrek (FR, orc home).  Being a good aligned drow in a world preparing for a great invasion by orcs she wasn't in a good spot.  And the player was willing to do anything to get her back.So, after a Commune spell with Eilistrea (sp?), who happens to also be the wife's goddess, to find our where she was, they needed a way to get there.  They decided to go ask the goddess personally (and phisically) for help.I should note here that they were in her main temple and had seen her walking around the place.They show up at the secretary's desk (don't ask) and ask for an appointment.  They're told she doesn't have any room in her schedule.  This is where the Pal gets in trouble.After asking the layout of the room and where the entrance to the goddess's chamber was, one of the other players tells the Pal to distract the secretary.  I had thought he'd say no flat out.He didn't.  He went with Diplomacy checks to keep her attention on him.  She was rather smitten by him already and was easily drawn into the conversation.  It was at this point that the party's resident lockpick slipped by and tried to open the door.  The Pal's player (PP for short) went to the bathroom.  Hold Portal kept the door shut.While the group was going through ideas one how to get around that the PP returned.  He mentioned that he had got to thinking that this might not be good for his Pal status and switched tacks to trying to Diplomacy the secretary into working them in.  Well, I was wondering if he had realized soon enough what he was doing.  I would add that he worships Tyr who is LG god of just Laws and his clerics sometimes act as lawyers when in civilized lands.  Breaking and entering would easily qualify as breach of that law.It would also be worth noting that as the player was in the bathroom he didn't know that the lock was unpickable when he returned.  Whether that's a mark for or against him I'm unsure.So, do you think I should nix his status or let it slide.  Eilistrea (sp?) is all for having him thrown out as she's pissed at how the rest of the PCs entered her office as the Pal went to beg forgiveness of Tyr.  She's currently demanding that Tyr drop him and throw him out of the church.Which brings up another interesting point.  He was a cleric who RPed the Law aspect of Tyr to the extreme.  He ran into the rest of the party while trying to get compose a written copy of the Elven laws while wandering the forest.  If he were to loose Pal status (which I'm leaning to right now) do you think he should also loose Cleric status?What effect would Atonement have on these?Thanks for your help in advance,-LelaEdit: Can't believe I made that mistake. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></blockquote>

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