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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neverwinter Knight" data-source="post: 575028" data-attributes="member: 596">Whoa! What's going on here? What is wrong with some of you people, stop being a******* ! to the critics:-----------------1. This is a question about a paladin's status decision, it is posted in the General Forum, so quit being smart-asses about unimportant stuff like "You shouldn't have used the diplomacy check".2. Someone asking for your opinion and receiving THESE replies? Shame on you! 3. This is about opinions, not what is right or wrong. What you think is right, need not be the appropriate course of action for this problem. to Lela:-----------Think from the god's perspective. Whether or not the paladin was obsessed with rules is of no concern to me. Think how Tyr sees the incident. I am concerned, however, about the paladin's motives. If he only changed his course of action because he was afraid for his precioussss status, I would definately give him a temporary penalty (e.g. revoke some of his powers for a session), but he really did have moral qualms, I'd grant him a vision of Tyr shaking his finger at him or something.Be careful, don't take away the paladin's status for small things - likewise don't let him get it back too easily. It is a DM's challenge to decide when to take it away and when to give it back. But it is vital that, when you take it away, the characater should be able to recover it within a reasonable amount of time (two sessions sound right to me), otherwise it is too frustrating for the player.I did not understand that "then the PP went to the bathroom" business. Please explain.I like the idea of a god having a secretary and that they come to visit (Let your clerics call my clerics, then we'll do lunch.). That's great.I would have Tyr back-up his paladins and clerics to other gods, though. I mean, they're just mortals after all... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> So, NO, I would not take his status away, but punish him. Maybe Tyr makes him undertake a quest for the elven godess. How about this: He has to rescue her lost cleric. Maybe with a twist. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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