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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 7618731" data-attributes="member: 53980"><p>That's a perfectly valid way of looking at it.</p><p></p><p>IMO, a game didn't have to be Monty Haul to be Supers. I forget which edition it was. OD&D? 1e? 1e + Unearthed Arcana, maybe? In any case, IIRC fighters (typically the least "super" of the classes) in that edition could kill their level in creatures with less than one HD in addition to their normal attacks every round. Now, granted, a round of combat back then was a minute of time, but a 12th level fighter taking out a dozen or more armed foes a minute is beyond the scope of fantasy (or at least my definition thereof). </p><p></p><p>Now certainly, many campaigns didn't get that high in level back then. However, I'm fairly certain that Gygax had players with characters of that level, and he was fairly vocal about being against the Monty Haul style of play. You didn't even have to be that high level. I had a fair number of characters hit name level in 2e and they were quite superhuman long before that point IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 7618731, member: 53980"] That's a perfectly valid way of looking at it. IMO, a game didn't have to be Monty Haul to be Supers. I forget which edition it was. OD&D? 1e? 1e + Unearthed Arcana, maybe? In any case, IIRC fighters (typically the least "super" of the classes) in that edition could kill their level in creatures with less than one HD in addition to their normal attacks every round. Now, granted, a round of combat back then was a minute of time, but a 12th level fighter taking out a dozen or more armed foes a minute is beyond the scope of fantasy (or at least my definition thereof). Now certainly, many campaigns didn't get that high in level back then. However, I'm fairly certain that Gygax had players with characters of that level, and he was fairly vocal about being against the Monty Haul style of play. You didn't even have to be that high level. I had a fair number of characters hit name level in 2e and they were quite superhuman long before that point IMO. [/QUOTE]
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