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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7622055" data-attributes="member: 48965">I'm more of a real examples type of guy so let's actually take a look at the Utilities for the classes just in the PHB for 4e say up to level 10...At level 2 the Wizard can...1. Move at 2x his speed2. Stop himself or anyone from taking damage from a fall of any distance.3. Leap great distances4. Create a magical shield to protect oneselfAt level 6 the Wizard can...1. Teleport himself 50ft2. Magically disguise himself3. Dispel Magic4. Turn himself or another creature invisible5. Levitate 20ft6. Create Fog to obstruct sight and offer concealment.At level 10 the Wizard can...1. Create portals up to 100ft apart that anyone can use to teleport2. Create multiple copies of himself to confuse foes3. Blur himself to hinder foes4. Grant himself or someone else resistances to various damage typesNow let's look at what a Fighter can do...At level 2 the fighter can...1. Gain regeneration when bloodied2. Let a willing ally move 2 squares3. Cancel the combat advantage of an enemy attacking you4. Gain temp hit pointsAt level 6 the fighter can...1. Gain +10 to Initiative2. Gain a +2 bonus to one defense3. Reduce damage from an attackAt level 10 the fighter can...1. Move 3 squares as long as you end adjacent to an enemy2. Take no damage from a hit but stunned and -2 to all defenses3. Boost allies defenses by +1 or +2 for the encounter.Hmm... okay these are supposed to be the non-combat/Utility powers and much like every edition of D&D 4e gives the fighter more fightery things to do wile giving the wizard more power through versatility (the main culprit of "quadratic" power) as well as powers for in combat.  And this is before we even begin to touch on rituals (which become inexpensiv by mid-heroic and higher), just looking at the ones for Arcana up to level 10 we have...Comprehend Language Arcana Magic Mouth ArcanaMake Whole ArcanaSecret Page ArcanaSilence ArcanaTenser’s Floating Disk ArcanaEndure Elements Arcana or Nature  Eye of Alarm Arcana Detect Secret Doors Arcana  Arcane Lock Arcana Enchant Magic Item Arcana  Knock Arcana Brew Potion Arcana or Religion Hallucinatory Item Arcana  Magic Circle Arcana  Disenchant Magic Item Arcana  Leomund’s Secret Chest Arcana Phantom Steed Arcana Sending Arcana Linked Portal Arcana  Water Breathing Arcana or Nature  Wizard’s Sight Arcana  Detect Object ArcanaBut yeah keep telling me how badly the wizard was nerfed and the fighter was given parity in 4e...</blockquote>

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