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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7622413" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>4e summons typically have half (bloodied value) the hit points of the summoner... many also offer the wizard other advantages like the Summon Shadow Serpent power (2nd level) where the wizard can also see through it's eyes and use it as a spy. Or the Fire Warrior who can also make opportunity attacks when commanded to do so, or the spectral hound that gives you +5 to Perception and can be sustained with a minor action... </p><p></p><p>As for Simulacra it takes 12 hours to cast requires enough snow or ice to make a life size replica of the creature, pieces of said creatures body to insert in said ice or snow, and a 1500gp ruby. The simulacra has no equipment so you better have the components of those spells you want it to cast or the weapons and armor for it to fight. For the 4e summons you need...nothing absolutely nothing and you can perform it over and over again daily (or if it's an encounter power, personally not sure if there are any, every encounter).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Is there a way to use my Combat Challenge/Superiority as a spy? Didn't think so.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just because you keep saying something doesn't make it true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7622413, member: 48965"] 4e summons typically have half (bloodied value) the hit points of the summoner... many also offer the wizard other advantages like the Summon Shadow Serpent power (2nd level) where the wizard can also see through it's eyes and use it as a spy. Or the Fire Warrior who can also make opportunity attacks when commanded to do so, or the spectral hound that gives you +5 to Perception and can be sustained with a minor action... As for Simulacra it takes 12 hours to cast requires enough snow or ice to make a life size replica of the creature, pieces of said creatures body to insert in said ice or snow, and a 1500gp ruby. The simulacra has no equipment so you better have the components of those spells you want it to cast or the weapons and armor for it to fight. For the 4e summons you need...nothing absolutely nothing and you can perform it over and over again daily (or if it's an encounter power, personally not sure if there are any, every encounter). Is there a way to use my Combat Challenge/Superiority as a spy? Didn't think so. Just because you keep saying something doesn't make it true. [/QUOTE]
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