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Should Insight be able to determine if an NPC is lying?
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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7590160"><p>I actually think this is a GREAT example because:</p><p></p><p>1) There are very explicit rules for how a dagger can be used to kill an NPC. Note that it's not not necessarily, "Roll one success, NPC dies" but it's one component: you roll to hit, then you roll some damage; wash/rinse/repeat and eventually it dies. Unless it has other counteractions it can take. And note that there are potentially negative consequences of trying this approach. (Surprise! He's a shapeshifted Dragon!)</p><p></p><p>2) As [MENTION=6776133]Bawylie[/MENTION] pointed out somewhere that if the PCs capture an NPC and hold a dagger to his throat, and for whatever reason they decide to kill him, it's also perfectly fine to narrate an insta-kill (possibly with some kind of die roll, although I'd probably let the player choose what sort...Medicine, straight Dexterity, etc., instead of an attack roll).</p><p></p><p>Similarly:</p><p></p><p>1) A successful Insight roll could be one component toward determining if an NPC is telling the truth. In some circumstances a single roll might even be sufficient. (That is, you figure out his Bond, at which point you figure it's highly likely that he is lying.) <em>But there should be a consequence to trying and failing.</em></p><p></p><p>2) if a scene is properly set up so that the truth (or not) of the NPC can be determined by asking the right questions, looking for the right clues (including possibly spying on the NPC afterwards) then no Insight roll is needed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7590160"] I actually think this is a GREAT example because: 1) There are very explicit rules for how a dagger can be used to kill an NPC. Note that it's not not necessarily, "Roll one success, NPC dies" but it's one component: you roll to hit, then you roll some damage; wash/rinse/repeat and eventually it dies. Unless it has other counteractions it can take. And note that there are potentially negative consequences of trying this approach. (Surprise! He's a shapeshifted Dragon!) 2) As [MENTION=6776133]Bawylie[/MENTION] pointed out somewhere that if the PCs capture an NPC and hold a dagger to his throat, and for whatever reason they decide to kill him, it's also perfectly fine to narrate an insta-kill (possibly with some kind of die roll, although I'd probably let the player choose what sort...Medicine, straight Dexterity, etc., instead of an attack roll). Similarly: 1) A successful Insight roll could be one component toward determining if an NPC is telling the truth. In some circumstances a single roll might even be sufficient. (That is, you figure out his Bond, at which point you figure it's highly likely that he is lying.) [I]But there should be a consequence to trying and failing.[/I] 2) if a scene is properly set up so that the truth (or not) of the NPC can be determined by asking the right questions, looking for the right clues (including possibly spying on the NPC afterwards) then no Insight roll is needed. [/QUOTE]
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