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Should Insightful players have an advantage?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 5746350" data-attributes="member: 762"><p>As in the Charisma thread, insightful players <strong>do</strong> have an advantage. They will be able to put threads together faster, ferret out motivations better, know when the NPC is lying regardless of roll and be able to influence the party accordingly (say by making sure the guy with the high insight skill is alerted and using it accordingly) etc. </p><p></p><p>The real question, is should they essentially have a mechanical advantage on top of that (by being able to ignore insight rolls etc.) and beyond a certain point (+2 to skill checks for particularly astute observations etc.) I think the answer should be no, unless the DM takes out insight as a skill entirely and leaves it up to player skill alone (If you're going to ignore it, why have it).</p><p></p><p>This does not mean insightful players are left out in the cold. They can take the insight skill and use it well along with any natural talent (this is one reason I give an extra free skill to the players, both in 3e and 4e - regardless of class or race), they can guide another player who has a good insight. Or, they can take a roleplaying challenge and play a low insight character - where the Player knows exactly what's going on but the character doesn't and the player has to react accordingly; leading to all sorts of interesting situations (people always talk about roleplaying the character - well this is a way to put up or shut up).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mort, post: 5746350, member: 762"] As in the Charisma thread, insightful players [b]do[/b] have an advantage. They will be able to put threads together faster, ferret out motivations better, know when the NPC is lying regardless of roll and be able to influence the party accordingly (say by making sure the guy with the high insight skill is alerted and using it accordingly) etc. The real question, is should they essentially have a mechanical advantage on top of that (by being able to ignore insight rolls etc.) and beyond a certain point (+2 to skill checks for particularly astute observations etc.) I think the answer should be no, unless the DM takes out insight as a skill entirely and leaves it up to player skill alone (If you're going to ignore it, why have it). This does not mean insightful players are left out in the cold. They can take the insight skill and use it well along with any natural talent (this is one reason I give an extra free skill to the players, both in 3e and 4e - regardless of class or race), they can guide another player who has a good insight. Or, they can take a roleplaying challenge and play a low insight character - where the Player knows exactly what's going on but the character doesn't and the player has to react accordingly; leading to all sorts of interesting situations (people always talk about roleplaying the character - well this is a way to put up or shut up). [/QUOTE]
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