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<blockquote data-quote="plisnithus8" data-source="post: 7923592" data-attributes="member: 6870553">I'm not sure why you tell me that I am mistaken about my own example.The PC is not actively doing anything but moving into a room of his house.That's why I would use his Passive Perception to see if he is subconsciously aware of an intruder.I never said it had too. I said it could.So in a discussion where you are arguing for player to control everything they think and feel, it sounds like you are telling me what I was thinking? And not just that, you decide to tell me I am wanting to do it to control my players? That's not the case at all. I don't need you to try to analyze my motives.It wouldn't be surprising at all, because as I already stated, I have played these situations both ways, and I find each can work well in certain situations with certain types of players when used effectively. I used to believe the same way you did and probably came off self-righteous about it, but I have learned that there's not one right way to play the game or have fun and that using various methods at the appropriate times can dramatically enhance the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="plisnithus8, post: 7923592, member: 6870553"] I'm not sure why you tell me that I am mistaken about my own example. The PC is not actively doing anything but moving into a room of his house. That's why I would use his Passive Perception to see if he is subconsciously aware of an intruder. I never said it had too. I said it could. So in a discussion where you are arguing for player to control everything they think and feel, it sounds like you are telling me what I was thinking? And not just that, you decide to tell me I am wanting to do it to control my players? That's not the case at all. I don't need you to try to analyze my motives. It wouldn't be surprising at all, because as I already stated, I have played these situations both ways, and I find each can work well in certain situations with certain types of players when used effectively. I used to believe the same way you did and probably came off self-righteous about it, but I have learned that there's not one right way to play the game or have fun and that using various methods at the appropriate times can dramatically enhance the game. [/QUOTE]

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