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Message: <blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 5909635" data-attributes="member: 3192">What do you think of removing all Equipment & Hiring out from the PHB? That could then be a campaign setting unique list for starting characters. A handout from the DM. Removing spells from the PHB could be next. A simple list of those available to choose from, maybe some descriptions, and players could have an easier time of it.I like the idea of not having a PHB where players game the system before play. Buying equipment, selecting spells, etc. for the situation at hand? That's part of playing the game IMO. Making more than a few choices during character generation means these are liable to stop being about the realm of the game the players wants to focus on and start being about comparing abilities for builds and min/maxing.Min/Maxing to me use to mean raising and lowering Ability Scores for the race & class chosen, to get the most power for the least cost from what was rolled. That's gaming the system too.</blockquote>