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<blockquote data-quote="am181d" data-source="post: 6222536" data-attributes="member: 3576">So to clarify your point:1) You don't like 4e2) You don't like that elements of 4e may make it into the final version of 5e3) You dislike 4e SO MUCH that you would prefer that 5e share NO elements with previous editions (4e included), even though you don't know whether you will like any of the entirely new elementsA couple of points:1) There clearly is NOT going to be an edition of D&amp;D that scraps all of the rules and starts over2) Why, when given absolute freedom to suggest any version of D&amp;D you like, are you suggesting a vague new version that you may or may not hate more than 4e rather than what you really seem to want (a new edition more similar to 3e and previous editions)?It seems like the reason so many folks DIDN'T take to 4e was that it was such a significant break from the past. Why would you think repeating the same experiment that turned you off of 4e would be a good solution to the problem?(For what it's worth, while I'm not the biggest 4e booster, I'm glad they took chances, and I wish that 5e would be similarly adventurous. But I understand the reality of what happened with 4e, and why they couldn't repeat the same set of decisions this time. I also think 4e would have better received, if not a better seller, if it was released as a separate RPG as opposed to a replacement for 3e.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="am181d, post: 6222536, member: 3576"] So to clarify your point: 1) You don't like 4e 2) You don't like that elements of 4e may make it into the final version of 5e 3) You dislike 4e SO MUCH that you would prefer that 5e share NO elements with previous editions (4e included), even though you don't know whether you will like any of the entirely new elements A couple of points: 1) There clearly is NOT going to be an edition of D&D that scraps all of the rules and starts over 2) Why, when given absolute freedom to suggest any version of D&D you like, are you suggesting a vague new version that you may or may not hate more than 4e rather than what you really seem to want (a new edition more similar to 3e and previous editions)? It seems like the reason so many folks DIDN'T take to 4e was that it was such a significant break from the past. Why would you think repeating the same experiment that turned you off of 4e would be a good solution to the problem? (For what it's worth, while I'm not the biggest 4e booster, I'm glad they took chances, and I wish that 5e would be similarly adventurous. But I understand the reality of what happened with 4e, and why they couldn't repeat the same set of decisions this time. I also think 4e would have better received, if not a better seller, if it was released as a separate RPG as opposed to a replacement for 3e.) [/QUOTE]

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