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<blockquote data-quote="Dunnagin" data-source="post: 6227124" data-attributes="member: 6679036">I have a silly way of describing this... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />Here's the changes I &quot;tasted&quot; in D&amp;D:AD&amp;D 1E was standard apple pie... maybe not &quot;perfect&quot;, but it was made by Mom! (made with lots of love).AD&amp;D 2E was pretty much the same. They used Mom's recipe, but the added a bit more salt (Mom had a few tricks she never wrote into the recipe). Overall... still good.3.0/3.5 &amp; Pathfinder &quot;looked&quot; a lot like Mom's apple pie... but damn, they made it spicy. So spicy in fact that it impacted my enjoyment of the pie quite a bit!4E was... beef stew. Wait a second... the package still said &quot;Mom's Apple Pie&quot;, but this is Beef Stew! Huh?As a side note... Basic/BX/RC was pretty much Mom's Apple Pie that I could quickly heat up in the microwave and serve. Not exactly Mom's apple pie... but very close and quick to make.EDIT:I should have circled this back around to D&amp;D Next, since that is what the thread is about.Essentailly, the Next Design, so far, seems to be trying to mix Mom's Apple Pie recipe with some Extra Spice and a bit of Beef Stew. I'm not sure if that works.In real life, I do love my mom's apple pie... but, I have tasted pie that I've liked better than hers (though it is rare).This &quot;better than mom's apple pie&quot; was not produced by a &quot;hodge podge crowd pleasing&quot; method... it was made by a skilled &quot;pie crafter&quot;.If every fan of apple pie was an actual &quot;pie crafter&quot;... then you'd value their opinion more highly... but I fear the truth is that most people giving suggestions have never actually crafted an &quot;entire pie&quot;... and they are instead focused on specific ingredients they like.That magic &quot;better than mom's pie&quot; had some ingredients that I never would have guessed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dunnagin, post: 6227124, member: 6679036"] I have a silly way of describing this... :P Here's the changes I "tasted" in D&D: AD&D 1E was standard apple pie... maybe not "perfect", but it was made by Mom! (made with lots of love). AD&D 2E was pretty much the same. They used Mom's recipe, but the added a bit more salt (Mom had a few tricks she never wrote into the recipe). Overall... still good. 3.0/3.5 & Pathfinder "looked" a lot like Mom's apple pie... but damn, they made it spicy. So spicy in fact that it impacted my enjoyment of the pie quite a bit! 4E was... beef stew. Wait a second... the package still said "Mom's Apple Pie", but this is Beef Stew! Huh? As a side note... Basic/BX/RC was pretty much Mom's Apple Pie that I could quickly heat up in the microwave and serve. Not exactly Mom's apple pie... but very close and quick to make. EDIT: I should have circled this back around to D&D Next, since that is what the thread is about. Essentailly, the Next Design, so far, seems to be trying to mix Mom's Apple Pie recipe with some Extra Spice and a bit of Beef Stew. I'm not sure if that works. In real life, I do love my mom's apple pie... but, I have tasted pie that I've liked better than hers (though it is rare). This "better than mom's apple pie" was not produced by a "hodge podge crowd pleasing" method... it was made by a skilled "pie crafter". If every fan of apple pie was an actual "pie crafter"... then you'd value their opinion more highly... but I fear the truth is that most people giving suggestions have never actually crafted an "entire pie"... and they are instead focused on specific ingredients they like. That magic "better than mom's pie" had some ingredients that I never would have guessed. [/QUOTE]

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