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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 9145614" data-attributes="member: 467">It isn't strange that they are a bounded subset, it is strange that the bounds are what they are, defined by the specific list of available things (whatever the soure).That's always been true, of course, and people have always pushed against it. It just occurred to me in the light of this discussion -- especially the &quot;why can't I be a shaman&quot; sub-discussion -- that there is no actual reason for this. The endless list of classes and subclasses in various 3PP books is evidence that people don't want the PC options limited to whatever WotC puts out.The solution is to built an actual race and class construction system. It doesn't necessarily need to be as broad as, say, Hero, but even something similar to what we had in the 2E DMG would go a long way toward letting players really play what they want.Anyway, I am just musing on a Saturday morning. It seems silly to point to storm raging barbarians and spell casting swordsmen and dragon blooded sorcerers and then say, &quot;Of course you can't be an alchemist.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 9145614, member: 467"] It isn't strange that they are a bounded subset, it is strange that the bounds are what they are, defined by the specific list of available things (whatever the soure). That's always been true, of course, and people have always pushed against it. It just occurred to me in the light of this discussion -- especially the "why can't I be a shaman" sub-discussion -- that there is no actual reason for this. The endless list of classes and subclasses in various 3PP books is evidence that people don't want the PC options limited to whatever WotC puts out. The solution is to built an actual race and class construction system. It doesn't necessarily need to be as broad as, say, Hero, but even something similar to what we had in the 2E DMG would go a long way toward letting players really play what they want. Anyway, I am just musing on a Saturday morning. It seems silly to point to storm raging barbarians and spell casting swordsmen and dragon blooded sorcerers and then say, "Of course you can't be an alchemist." [/QUOTE]

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