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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9680709" data-attributes="member: 4937">Batman's biggest superpower is he was born wealthy, and not just comfortable but preeminently wealthy.&nbsp; That and he apparently has an 18 in every stat.&nbsp; It's not at all clear that you get smarter or stronger just because you want to be smarter or stronger.&nbsp; Maybe a little, but you already had to start out pretty special to get exceptional.The truth is, there are almost no everyman heroes and certainly not in heroic fiction (and definitely not in superheroic fiction which is all about super men).&nbsp; Frodo Baggins by Gandalf's account was &quot;the best Hobbit in the Shire&quot;.&nbsp; Merry and Pippin were hobbit princelings.&nbsp; Sam arguably gets there, but even he is I think intended to represent the most noble qualities of the English peasant stock right from the start and not merely an average member thereof.&nbsp; &nbsp; Even Elizabeth Bennett does not count.True everyman protagonists might be Arthur Dent in &quot;Hitchhikers&quot;.&nbsp; Ishmael in &quot;Moby Dick&quot;.&nbsp; Oliver Twist.&nbsp; And I'm running blank already.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9680709, member: 4937"] Batman's biggest superpower is he was born wealthy, and not just comfortable but preeminently wealthy. That and he apparently has an 18 in every stat. It's not at all clear that you get smarter or stronger just because you want to be smarter or stronger. Maybe a little, but you already had to start out pretty special to get exceptional. The truth is, there are almost no everyman heroes and certainly not in heroic fiction (and definitely not in superheroic fiction which is all about super men). Frodo Baggins by Gandalf's account was "the best Hobbit in the Shire". Merry and Pippin were hobbit princelings. Sam arguably gets there, but even he is I think intended to represent the most noble qualities of the English peasant stock right from the start and not merely an average member thereof. Even Elizabeth Bennett does not count. True everyman protagonists might be Arthur Dent in "Hitchhikers". Ishmael in "Moby Dick". Oliver Twist. And I'm running blank already. [/QUOTE]

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