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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5747364" data-attributes="member: 177">Unsubstantiated?  That the GNS model is theoretical, and not empirical, is historical fact.  Nobody at the Forge claimed to have done broad studies, did they?There was one relevant empirical study done, the WotC Market Survey in 1999 - and it indicated that gamers did cluster, but not along GNS lines:  <a href="http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/gaming/BreakdownOfRPGPlayers.html" target="_blank">Breakdown of RPG Players</a>  Most importantly, though - I was not pigeon-holing anyone or anything.  I was arguing against your classifications, which is pretty much the opposite of pigeon-holing.It is all well and good for you to disagree with my assessment, or even to feel it is not well-supported. But please at least describe what I was doing accurately.</blockquote>