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Should PCs be forced to act a certain way because of their stats?
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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5754532" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>Yeah, but it's not peer pressure in the colloquial sense. That is, we aren't trying to force someone to play in a way that they don't wish to. As I've mentioned the social contract, it's something mutually agreed upon. We all try to catch one another as aid, not to force someone to do something they wouldn't normally do.</p><p></p><p>That'd be like saying that if I accidentally cheat when I'm playing basketball and they call me on it, they're trying to use peer pressure. Well, that's probably mislabeling it from a colloquial standpoint, and perhaps from a technical definition (sense there's no "pressure"). It's trying to help the other guy stay in line with a rule that he's forgotten to follow.</p><p></p><p>I hope that illuminates my group a little more. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, if I tell someone I'm going to fly at level 1, even though I have no ability to fly, that'd be fine? No? So, I have to ask, "mother, may I walk to the store now?" Or, if I ask if I know about something, and the GM says "roll a Knowledge check," that means whenever I want to know anything, I have to ask, "Mother-May-I?"</p><p></p><p>See, if the group <em>agrees</em> upon this play style, labeling it as Mother-May-I is pretty misleading. It's definitely condescending. It's also hyperbole. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, not in the colloquial sense. Nobody uses the word that way. If I say, "I'm going to fly!" at level one, and the GM says, "you can't, you don't have anything that mechanically lets you do that," I can't say back "hey! That's metagaming!" and expect people to take me seriously.</p><p></p><p>Why? Because the term isn't used that way within common language (at least from my experience). Following the game rules is metagaming. People don't consider it such, of course. I can (and will) pretty easily dismiss your comment on such grounds. You can comment on it again, if you'd like, but I likely won't reply, as there's no point in getting into that argument. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 5754532, member: 6668292"] Yeah, but it's not peer pressure in the colloquial sense. That is, we aren't trying to force someone to play in a way that they don't wish to. As I've mentioned the social contract, it's something mutually agreed upon. We all try to catch one another as aid, not to force someone to do something they wouldn't normally do. That'd be like saying that if I accidentally cheat when I'm playing basketball and they call me on it, they're trying to use peer pressure. Well, that's probably mislabeling it from a colloquial standpoint, and perhaps from a technical definition (sense there's no "pressure"). It's trying to help the other guy stay in line with a rule that he's forgotten to follow. I hope that illuminates my group a little more. As always, play what you like :) So, if I tell someone I'm going to fly at level 1, even though I have no ability to fly, that'd be fine? No? So, I have to ask, "mother, may I walk to the store now?" Or, if I ask if I know about something, and the GM says "roll a Knowledge check," that means whenever I want to know anything, I have to ask, "Mother-May-I?" See, if the group [I]agrees[/I] upon this play style, labeling it as Mother-May-I is pretty misleading. It's definitely condescending. It's also hyperbole. Again, not in the colloquial sense. Nobody uses the word that way. If I say, "I'm going to fly!" at level one, and the GM says, "you can't, you don't have anything that mechanically lets you do that," I can't say back "hey! That's metagaming!" and expect people to take me seriously. Why? Because the term isn't used that way within common language (at least from my experience). Following the game rules is metagaming. People don't consider it such, of course. I can (and will) pretty easily dismiss your comment on such grounds. You can comment on it again, if you'd like, but I likely won't reply, as there's no point in getting into that argument. As always, play what you like :) [/QUOTE]
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