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<blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 9252624" data-attributes="member: 90374"><p>I wish fantasy D&D and derivatives were designed to be MAD where making a smart or suave fighter is seemingly more possible. 3E/PF1 did this, but came with a lot of mechanical baggage and bad math. Also, the fact a character could go SAD and reap the benefits ruined the overall experience. I think in order to do this correctly, the design must make all classes MAD to balance it out. 4E went way into the fully SAD bucket, which I didn't like, and 5E is a mixed bag (but not as bad as 3E was).</p><p></p><p>I do use ability scores as a guide for roleplaying my characters, but its not the end all be all. I assume its the mechanical engine in which my character accomplishes things. I don't consider a 10 in a score to be an invalid, or person devoid of intelligence or personality. I also dont think a fighter needs 18 to be considered intelligent. Though, often folks do in these discussions. </p><p></p><p>Overall, I do not support removing intelligence and/or charisma from the game to make folks feel better about their fighters. Nor do I think the existing stats need to go through a renaming so they make more sense for folks either. I do not think roleplay needs to be policed or enforced by folks at the table. The mechanics are neutral and will do that on their own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="payn, post: 9252624, member: 90374"] I wish fantasy D&D and derivatives were designed to be MAD where making a smart or suave fighter is seemingly more possible. 3E/PF1 did this, but came with a lot of mechanical baggage and bad math. Also, the fact a character could go SAD and reap the benefits ruined the overall experience. I think in order to do this correctly, the design must make all classes MAD to balance it out. 4E went way into the fully SAD bucket, which I didn't like, and 5E is a mixed bag (but not as bad as 3E was). I do use ability scores as a guide for roleplaying my characters, but its not the end all be all. I assume its the mechanical engine in which my character accomplishes things. I don't consider a 10 in a score to be an invalid, or person devoid of intelligence or personality. I also dont think a fighter needs 18 to be considered intelligent. Though, often folks do in these discussions. Overall, I do not support removing intelligence and/or charisma from the game to make folks feel better about their fighters. Nor do I think the existing stats need to go through a renaming so they make more sense for folks either. I do not think roleplay needs to be policed or enforced by folks at the table. The mechanics are neutral and will do that on their own. [/QUOTE]
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