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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6461619" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>I think you are being a little unfair here. in my experience there are some players that also DM, and some that don't. Of those that do they always read the DMG, of those that don't there is still a % that read the DMG... so my experience more read it then don't... it is only human nature to assume you know what is coming, so when those people read rule X is y, that is what they belive.</p><p></p><p>now your example sounds to me like the PC just went with the rule, I don't understand why you changed it (you gave us no explanation other then 'not in my world'. Depending on the amount of trust you built with your players that may be enough, I know I could say that and none of my normal PCs would balk, however I don't know your situation.</p><p></p><p> my Tuesday night crew and I have been playing since 3.0 was the newist game and 2 of the 4 pcs played some 2e games with me as well, however when Ross or Jon run games (we alternate) they better have a good explanation, because we don't trust them to run as fun or consistant games... </p><p></p><p></p><p>example: A DM who isn't with us any more Tony once ran a low magic game. He diss allowed starting as a caster, and had weird training rules... at 7th level the party of 6 PCs had 3 items between them, and had just found a 4th, it was a +1 weapon no one could use. A player went to sell it to a person who could use it and had TONS of money and said "Give me 10,000 gp and you can have this powerful artifact" the DM laughed and said "What, no I'll give you 1,000gp why would I buy it more then that when I could pay 2,000 to have one made for me" so the player said "Wow, you know someone that can make magic weapons, please introduce us..." then the DM got mad and said out of game "Dude, you can't but magic items in my world, but my NPC isn't dumb enough to pay over the DMG value"<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm :-S" data-shortname=":-S" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p>to this day (8ish years later) we use that at the table as our example of being too dumb to house rule... </p><p></p><p>I don't know your group, or your social contract... but I don't think your PC did anything wrong</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6461619, member: 67338"] I think you are being a little unfair here. in my experience there are some players that also DM, and some that don't. Of those that do they always read the DMG, of those that don't there is still a % that read the DMG... so my experience more read it then don't... it is only human nature to assume you know what is coming, so when those people read rule X is y, that is what they belive. now your example sounds to me like the PC just went with the rule, I don't understand why you changed it (you gave us no explanation other then 'not in my world'. Depending on the amount of trust you built with your players that may be enough, I know I could say that and none of my normal PCs would balk, however I don't know your situation. my Tuesday night crew and I have been playing since 3.0 was the newist game and 2 of the 4 pcs played some 2e games with me as well, however when Ross or Jon run games (we alternate) they better have a good explanation, because we don't trust them to run as fun or consistant games... example: A DM who isn't with us any more Tony once ran a low magic game. He diss allowed starting as a caster, and had weird training rules... at 7th level the party of 6 PCs had 3 items between them, and had just found a 4th, it was a +1 weapon no one could use. A player went to sell it to a person who could use it and had TONS of money and said "Give me 10,000 gp and you can have this powerful artifact" the DM laughed and said "What, no I'll give you 1,000gp why would I buy it more then that when I could pay 2,000 to have one made for me" so the player said "Wow, you know someone that can make magic weapons, please introduce us..." then the DM got mad and said out of game "Dude, you can't but magic items in my world, but my NPC isn't dumb enough to pay over the DMG value":-S:erm::confused: to this day (8ish years later) we use that at the table as our example of being too dumb to house rule... I don't know your group, or your social contract... but I don't think your PC did anything wrong [/QUOTE]
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