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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8824268" data-attributes="member: 6785785">So you change the results of rolls such that the player rolls a 3, believes he failed, you roll and turn it into a success, but don’t signal this in any way, so rhey charm the guard anyway?What’s accomplished by the switch to a success? If I was a player in such a game I’d be really annoyed by that. It seems like it doesn’t even matter what I do. The dice roll is the uncertainty. Knowing a character’s bonus on the roll is having a sense of how capable they are. Knowing the DC is having a sense of how difficult the task will be. Knowing both does not grant certainty. It grants a sense of the odds. Which is what people will generally have. Not always and not in such a codified manner, you’re correct about that, but I’d say it’s a more accurate reflection than not letting a player know the odds.</blockquote>