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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8825142" data-attributes="member: 7025508">I'm kind of at the middle ground here. I don't like metagaming nor the game being too gamey, but I don't think knowing your roll and sometimes the DC too necessarily mean that. We must consider what these numbers actually represent. DC is obvious, it is how hard the task is. And in many situations competent people living in the setting and observing it via their own senses instead of just via necessarily abbreviated narration would have pretty decent idea of the difficulty. If the task is such that the PC can reasonably observe and assess it, I don't mind telling the DC. Now some tasks are not like that, often ones related to perceiving and knowing. For such I wouldn't reveal the DC.And what does the roll+bonus represent? It represents how well the character did, and usually they should have a solid idea of that too. Yes, even if they wouldn't know the DC. You know that you searched thoroughly, you know that you told a good lie, you know you sneaked without making a sound. You still might not necessarily know whether you succeeded, but the quality of your performance helping you to guess whether you did is fine.But I'm also fine with rolling when nothing massive is at the stake. The roll gauges how well the PC did in the task. If they search traps in area where there are no traps, a bad roll results something like &quot;You don't notice anything...&quot; whereas good one is more like &quot;You're virtually certain that there are no traps.&quot; And even if nothing else, it gives us flavour. I try to use degrees of success and failure when possible, and sometimes unexpectedly good or bad rolls in trivial tasks might trigger interesting consequences.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 8825142, member: 7025508"] I'm kind of at the middle ground here. I don't like metagaming nor the game being too gamey, but I don't think knowing your roll and sometimes the DC too necessarily mean that. We must consider what these numbers actually represent. DC is obvious, it is how hard the task is. And in many situations competent people living in the setting and observing it via their own senses instead of just via necessarily abbreviated narration would have pretty decent idea of the difficulty. If the task is such that the PC can reasonably observe and assess it, I don't mind telling the DC. Now some tasks are not like that, often ones related to perceiving and knowing. For such I wouldn't reveal the DC. And what does the roll+bonus represent? It represents how well the character did, and usually they should have a solid idea of that too. Yes, even if they wouldn't know the DC. You know that you searched thoroughly, you know that you told a good lie, you know you sneaked without making a sound. You still might not necessarily know whether you succeeded, but the quality of your performance helping you to guess whether you did is fine. But I'm also fine with rolling when nothing massive is at the stake. The roll gauges how well the PC did in the task. If they search traps in area where there are no traps, a bad roll results something like "You don't notice anything..." whereas good one is more like "You're virtually certain that there are no traps." And even if nothing else, it gives us flavour. I try to use degrees of success and failure when possible, and sometimes unexpectedly good or bad rolls in trivial tasks might trigger interesting consequences. [/QUOTE]

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