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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 8829798" data-attributes="member: 762">Are you honestly saying a person can't tell if they bluffed or parleyed badly - not an inkling? I've often been in a negotiation (or argument) where I knew a statement or argument was a dud the second I said it!All you know is you didn't find a secret door. Why is the PC barred from thinking that the door is there, he just didn't find it (this is true whether the door is actually there or not, that doesn't even matter)? As for no rerolls? Why not? you are devoting time to continue looking (perhaps futilely).  Unless there is some mechanical reason the PC only gets 1 chance to find the door, assuming it's there they SHOULD eventually find it (assuming the DC is reachable by that particular PC). That said, maybe continuing looking for the door is inadvisable!Why wouldn't a person just keep looking until they find the door? to answer -  1. The door might not be there. 2. TIME PRESSURE! there could be wandering monsters, there could be a goal needing to be accomplished and spending an hour looking for a door severely impacts the likelihood of success of that goal, etc.</blockquote>