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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 2175861" data-attributes="member: 1288">Well, I don't think that knowing &quot;D20 + skill check&quot; qualifies as academic.But more to the point...A) I have never seen any circumstances under which someone not knowing the rules as I described failed to slow down the game and frustrate everyone else.B) I game with my friends for fun, too. Sitting around waiting for someone else to figure something out is not fun. I have other nights where I hang out with my friends just for the sake of hanging out; if I'm gaming with people, I expect it's because they want to game. And if they want to game, I expect everyone to offer at least the bare minimum effort to require they aren't impeding anyone else's fun.C) I honestly can't even fully comprehend your position. I don't mean that to be rude--far from it--I just truly don't get it. I don't see how this is any different than a bunch of friends getting together to play baseball, or poker, and deciding that even after three months, it's okay that Bob doesn't know the rules. There's no way for that to happen without negatively impacting the game for everyone else. Insisting people learn the rules isn't &quot;ruining&quot; anyone's fun, there; it's enhancing it.Sure, I've made exceptions. I've gamed with people who had honest learning disabilities, and they absolutely got special consideration. But from everyone else, I expect a modicum of both courtesy and effort. Nor would I offer any less from myself. (And for the record, I expect this whether I'm DMing or playing.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 2175861, member: 1288"] Well, I don't think that knowing "D20 + skill check" qualifies as academic. But more to the point... A) I have never seen any circumstances under which someone not knowing the rules as I described [i]failed[/i] to slow down the game and frustrate everyone else. B) I game with my friends for fun, too. Sitting around waiting for someone else to figure something out is [i]not[/i] fun. I have other nights where I hang out with my friends just for the sake of hanging out; if I'm gaming with people, I expect it's because they want to game. And if they want to game, I expect everyone to offer at least the bare minimum effort to require they aren't impeding anyone else's fun. C) I honestly can't even fully comprehend your position. I don't mean that to be rude--far from it--I just truly don't get it. I don't see how this is any different than a bunch of friends getting together to play baseball, or poker, and deciding that even after three months, it's okay that Bob doesn't know the rules. There's [i]no way[/i] for that to happen without negatively impacting the game for everyone else. Insisting people learn the rules isn't "ruining" anyone's fun, there; it's [i]enhancing[/i] it. Sure, I've made exceptions. I've gamed with people who had honest learning disabilities, and they absolutely got special consideration. But from everyone else, I expect a modicum of both courtesy and effort. Nor would I offer any less from myself. (And for the record, I expect this whether I'm DMing or playing.) [/QUOTE]

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