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<blockquote data-quote="dragonier" data-source="post: 4380810" data-attributes="member: 5888">I couldn't agree more.&nbsp; There are no capital &quot;M&quot;s stamped on the foreheads of minions.&nbsp; Tell me how likely it is that in the midst of chaotic combat with a veritable swarm of undead or goblins or kobolds that the heroes will be able to pick out with precision which of their opponents are minions or not.I had the privilege to DM 4e demos on both D&amp;D Day and Free RPG day.&nbsp; When the PCs were facing a large group of kobolds, the minion ability to only take damage from an actual hit came into play more than once.&nbsp; There were a number of times where there were powers used that caused small amounts of damage even on a miss.&nbsp; Minions of course are immune to that damage.&nbsp; One kobold in particular was on the receiving end of such a miss twice before finally getting struck for 18 points of damage.&nbsp; Really, unless there is some very compelling reason to let the players look behind the curtain, I prefer to let situations like that speak for themselves.&nbsp; As far as the players know, they took out a kobold with 3 attacks and did a total of 24 points of damage to him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dragonier, post: 4380810, member: 5888"] I couldn't agree more. There are no capital "M"s stamped on the foreheads of minions. Tell me how likely it is that in the midst of chaotic combat with a veritable swarm of undead or goblins or kobolds that the heroes will be able to pick out with precision which of their opponents are minions or not. I had the privilege to DM 4e demos on both D&D Day and Free RPG day. When the PCs were facing a large group of kobolds, the minion ability to only take damage from an actual hit came into play more than once. There were a number of times where there were powers used that caused small amounts of damage even on a miss. Minions of course are immune to that damage. One kobold in particular was on the receiving end of such a miss twice before finally getting struck for 18 points of damage. Really, unless there is some very compelling reason to let the players look behind the curtain, I prefer to let situations like that speak for themselves. As far as the players know, they took out a kobold with 3 attacks and did a total of 24 points of damage to him. [/QUOTE]

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