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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4383703" data-attributes="member: 2011">I think the game is MUCH more enjoyable as a player if I am not spoon fed by the DM and told all kinds of extra metagame information about the monsters (like its role) that my PC should not have.Where is the fun and challenge in that? Might as well be playing City of Villains with the little Minion nametag above the creatures name. zzzzzzzA role is a encounter design game mechanic. It is not a PC observable quality. What is observable is that the monster is casting spells or using a bow or whatever. That does not make the monster a controller or artillery. It means that the monster is casting a spell or using a bow.Type is not what you are implying that it means.Type includes: animate, beast, humanoid, and magical beast.The OP is asking about Minion Role. There is no knowledge check for roles, nor should there be.An extremely generous DM might say "Oh, that a Kobold Minion" when giving its name, but I consider that bogus. He should not say "Kobold Minion" or "Kobold Skirmisher", he should say "Kobold". Those extra tags are for the DM, not for the PCs.Also, the DC increases for Paragon Tier monsters +5 and Epic Tier Monsters +10.Sorry people, according to the rules, the Monster Check does not give the PC knowledge about the monster role. That is an encounter design element, not an observable monster quality.</blockquote>