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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5783665" data-attributes="member: 9037">I have to disagree with this. I rolled what would be a 48 point buy character once I made her a fighter. What made her so awesome was because I had such great rolls I was able to give her really decent charisma and intelligence stats.The only stat that was not really great was t the ten I rolled I put it in dex dex because I envisioned her as plate wearing shield carrying fighter. To get the good intelligence and charisma I didn't have to sacrifice my con or my strength.Since we were playing in a Kingdom of Kalamar game I took  feats from that game that  let me use my intelligence modifier to make non class skills class skills. I also took a feat that let me as a noble have a plus to my charisma based skills in a social setting. She was my idea of a noble who was a knight well educated and versed in social niceties. So she was the face of the party.She was also a monster in combat.I have tried to rebuild her using a 32 point buy and it can't be done. If I give her the charisma and intelligence needed to use those feats then she is not good as a fighter. If I make her a good fighter she can't do the other things.</blockquote>