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<blockquote data-quote="Dragonblade" data-source="post: 5784284" data-attributes="member: 2804"><p>Of course they would. If they rolled an 18, they aren't suddenly going to put that score somewhere else. You will always put your highest score in the stat that you need the most for the class you want to play.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thats part of it. I want to determine the PC I play, not let the dice pick for me. If you want a character to organically grow from rolling thats cool, but most people don't play that way. They have a concept in mind and want to recreate it on paper.</p><p></p><p>But the other and equally important part is fairness and balance in play. Its great if you are the guy that lucked out and rolled 16's, 17's and 18's for all your stats. But sucks to be the guy that rolled 12's or less for everything. So what do you do in that scenario? Force them to play that PC? Knowing that that the first thing they are going to want to do is off themselves so they can make a new one? How is that fun? Or watching them perpetually be frustrated as the guy with the uber stats steals the spotlight?</p><p></p><p>And despite claims to the contrary, you can't RP bad stats into better ones. No matter how much you envision your thief as a daring acrobat. If his Dex is a 12, he will consistently be outshined and outperformed by the PC who has the 18.</p><p></p><p>Or do you let them reroll? Well, if everyone rerolls their way into better stats, just give them all 16's or 18's and be done with it or let them pick the stats they feel are appropriate. Just dispense with the farce of rolling altogether.</p><p></p><p>In the last PF game I played before the DM came to his senses, we all rolled 16's or better except one guy who rolled 10's or less. The DM let him reroll five sets of stats before he too finally got to the promised land of uber stats. Then the DM threw up his hands a few levels into the game because he felt we were all too powerful. Well, duh.</p><p></p><p>So he switched to point buy and it ceased to be an issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragonblade, post: 5784284, member: 2804"] Of course they would. If they rolled an 18, they aren't suddenly going to put that score somewhere else. You will always put your highest score in the stat that you need the most for the class you want to play. Thats part of it. I want to determine the PC I play, not let the dice pick for me. If you want a character to organically grow from rolling thats cool, but most people don't play that way. They have a concept in mind and want to recreate it on paper. But the other and equally important part is fairness and balance in play. Its great if you are the guy that lucked out and rolled 16's, 17's and 18's for all your stats. But sucks to be the guy that rolled 12's or less for everything. So what do you do in that scenario? Force them to play that PC? Knowing that that the first thing they are going to want to do is off themselves so they can make a new one? How is that fun? Or watching them perpetually be frustrated as the guy with the uber stats steals the spotlight? And despite claims to the contrary, you can't RP bad stats into better ones. No matter how much you envision your thief as a daring acrobat. If his Dex is a 12, he will consistently be outshined and outperformed by the PC who has the 18. Or do you let them reroll? Well, if everyone rerolls their way into better stats, just give them all 16's or 18's and be done with it or let them pick the stats they feel are appropriate. Just dispense with the farce of rolling altogether. In the last PF game I played before the DM came to his senses, we all rolled 16's or better except one guy who rolled 10's or less. The DM let him reroll five sets of stats before he too finally got to the promised land of uber stats. Then the DM threw up his hands a few levels into the game because he felt we were all too powerful. Well, duh. So he switched to point buy and it ceased to be an issue. [/QUOTE]
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