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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 5787250" data-attributes="member: 8461">There's a difference between "useable" and "munchkin."It doesn't necessarily mean that; between the careful allocation of your remaining points and racial ability bonuses, you can end up with an 18 in your primary ability score and having your dump stat being only 10 - a statistical "average."Add in ability points gained as you level and stat-boosting items, and even that can be raised with surprising quickness (while the primary ability score will inflate even further).That's not to mention the fact that PCs are great at finding ways to minimize reliance on their dump stat; the party is very good, in my experience, at working together for this. Yes, that fighter has a Charisma of 10, but guess what? The group won't want him to be the "face man" for them anyway - they'll want the guy who started with an 18 in Charisma to do it, and he'll be more than happy to.Min-maxing allows the PCs to specialize in their "role" in the party, and they'll work together as such that they'll each cover their role well enough that it becomes increasingly difficult to use that min-maxing against them by making a situation where they'll have to play to their characters' weaknesses.It's natural for the party to work together, to shore up their strengths and cover each other's weaknesses. But the min-maxing that point-buying allows, and that they then capitalize on, makes it very easy as well as obvious to inflate their strengths to a ridiculous degree while simultaneously minimizing their individual weaknesses to near-nonexistence.</blockquote>

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