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Message: <blockquote data-quote="William Ronald" data-source="post: 3253519" data-attributes="member: 426">I agree and in one group that I was in, anti-aging magic was something that was retconned in.  The quest for long life is part of many stories, myths, and legends.  So, it should be part of the core rules.  (Heck, a lot of D20 products have spells for extending life, such as Monte Cook's Arcana Unearthed.)  Trust me when I say that a powerful, long lived character will likely have enough foes to keep life interesting.Should it be cheap? No.  For one thing, in most game worlds, people capable of casting such magics will not be all that common.  Also, there are other considerations.  For example, most clerics will reach a point where they wish to pass on to their god's home plane.  Similarly, some people may wish to be reunited with their loved ones.Immortality could be seen as a burden, as one could easily outlive one's family and many friends.  This was the case with an epic level mage which I once played, as I was one of the mainstays of a very long lived gaming group. He had seen generations of change, and felt motivated by duty to his country, his god, and his world to keep alive.  (A humorous side effect of this is that he also ended up adventuring with or advising characters who were the descendants of other characters.  This made for some great role playing, as some of the newer characters felt that they had a family reputation to uphold and it was amusing for the old man to relate a few stories to the youngsters.)As for my take on lichdom, I see it as an effort by spellcasters to make themselves immortal and almost invulnerable.  Perhaps everyone who creates a lich's phylactery thinks that he has figured out the right formula or ritual to achieve immortality and invulnerability --- and does not succeed.  (Heck, if Vecna ended up as a demilich, this might give people a clue as to how hard it is.  However, most characters who follow the path to lichdom are not exactly known for humility about their own capabilities.)</blockquote>

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