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Should Prestige Classes Advance Spellcasting?
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<blockquote data-quote="Wraith-Hunter" data-source="post: 3338905" data-attributes="member: 48298"><p>I think the base classes need to be redone in the mold of Scout, Duskblade, Etc. There is no reason NOT to multiclass. Especially the sorcerer. </p><p></p><p>If DM's and designers want to limit PRC use then there should be some mechanical reason to stay in the base class. Who wants to PrC as a duskblade or a scout or the other new base classes. </p><p></p><p>The sorcerer is particularly problemmatic here, not to mention that though spont casting is good it is not the end all be all. It is balanced with the delayed spell levels. They don't even get the metamagic bonuses of a wizard, and a familiar WHOPPEDY DOOO. It is better to use an alternate ability and get rid of the familiar or if you want one take the feat that grants one but stacks all caster levels not just Sorc. </p><p></p><p>Multi classing and PrC's even multiple PrC's are party of D&D now. Way diff then previous editions. If DM's and designers want to change or limit it then they need to rework the base classes a bit. And rework some PrCs to be 3-5 level with less useless feats/skills. This limits the early loss of power with sub-optimal feats, and if there was insentive to stick with the class more would</p><p></p><p>The fighter and sorcerer both are in serious need of updating. Wizard and cleric less, but still need some work. Unless you want specialization why bother to go past fighter 2? And for sorc level 5 or 6? Most fighter builds take 2-4 levels of fighter depending on whether you want weapon specailization. And no sorc build takes it past 6. For good reasons. The only reason not to multi or prc is if you are stuck with a 1e or 2e anti multiclassing mindset, or want to rp a suboptimal character then complain about optimised characters (this is what happens in my exp.)</p><p></p><p>PHBII does a great deal for higher level fighters but the class could do more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wraith-Hunter, post: 3338905, member: 48298"] I think the base classes need to be redone in the mold of Scout, Duskblade, Etc. There is no reason NOT to multiclass. Especially the sorcerer. If DM's and designers want to limit PRC use then there should be some mechanical reason to stay in the base class. Who wants to PrC as a duskblade or a scout or the other new base classes. The sorcerer is particularly problemmatic here, not to mention that though spont casting is good it is not the end all be all. It is balanced with the delayed spell levels. They don't even get the metamagic bonuses of a wizard, and a familiar WHOPPEDY DOOO. It is better to use an alternate ability and get rid of the familiar or if you want one take the feat that grants one but stacks all caster levels not just Sorc. Multi classing and PrC's even multiple PrC's are party of D&D now. Way diff then previous editions. If DM's and designers want to change or limit it then they need to rework the base classes a bit. And rework some PrCs to be 3-5 level with less useless feats/skills. This limits the early loss of power with sub-optimal feats, and if there was insentive to stick with the class more would The fighter and sorcerer both are in serious need of updating. Wizard and cleric less, but still need some work. Unless you want specialization why bother to go past fighter 2? And for sorc level 5 or 6? Most fighter builds take 2-4 levels of fighter depending on whether you want weapon specailization. And no sorc build takes it past 6. For good reasons. The only reason not to multi or prc is if you are stuck with a 1e or 2e anti multiclassing mindset, or want to rp a suboptimal character then complain about optimised characters (this is what happens in my exp.) PHBII does a great deal for higher level fighters but the class could do more. [/QUOTE]
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