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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3241878" data-attributes="member: 3929">I remember this argument for elementary school. I believe my response should be "Yes it is."Arcane TricksterArchmageEldrich KnightHeirophantLoremasterMystic TheurgeThaumaturgistGee, in the DMG, about half. Whaddya know. And the Eldrich Knight isn't going to be any kind of effective in melee without taking more than one Fighter level, so that would be another.Or perhaps you meant, "Of all the spellcasting PrCs that don't give up any spellcasting levels, how many of them give up more than three spellcasting levels?" Then I'd have to say you are quite right. Or is that what you meant by "(that's their FOCUS)"? So suddenly any spellcasting class that gives up spellcasting levels doesn't have spellcasting as their FOCUS? Good circular logic, that would be.Terribly sorry, I thought you would have been interested in knowing how a PrCs still have weaknesses.[Meta]This response is a broad generalization that I cannot possibly support to counter your own.[/Meta]Wheras gish base classes are signifigantly underpowered. The PrC attempts to bring them back into line with a single-classed build. Snort yourself.Ah, back to this. "Yes, it really is".So if PrCs are better at their speciality than base class builds, which are more generalized, then they're overpowered. No wonder you have the opinion you do.My apologies, there should have been a negative in that statement: "If you don't believe X, then define or defend your opinion" or something along those lines. But since you decided to provide the definition, I'll suggest that if someone is determined to find something, they'll find it: you don't like PrCs, and you've contrived a way to "prove" that it's the case.This is similar to the, "Heroin addicts like heroin, more power to them for shooting up." I suppose since I'm such a powergamer and don't have any idea about proper game balance I should just be on my merry and not discuss things like this when the grown-ups are in the forum.</blockquote>

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